Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?

[Gandalf]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

I believe you, but also when one says they are healthy, are they always healthy? I question that because many have conditions that they just do not know of. There are people with cancer in their bodies for more than a decade and they didn't know, there are people with heart problems that they put down to digestion issues. They never knew. Then when something else comes along, then they go. There are millions right now in America who think they are healthy, but unless they do the full checks they just do not know. Many are not even insured. Heck, my estrogen was a case in point. Not harmful, but you just do not know what is happening unless you get the data back.

Your 4 days symptoms sound like one of my panic attacks and are a sign that you need some serious rest! Don't work yourself too hard and go easy on yourself. Some have stress from not working at all, others have stress from working too much. Heck people are even killing themselves because they cannot leave the house. All sorts of strange physiological things are at work in times of immense abnormality.

[TitoFan]

I'll be doing the asking now.

1. What is the driving force behind trying to belittle/deny the gravity of the pandemic?

2. Why the refusal to look at the already given and posted (by me) numbers comparing COVID-19 with the flu?

3. Why the anger and resentment for those people who choose to obey social distancing guidelines and protect themselves?

4. Why the dogged relentless questions about cause of death?

5. Why the persistent comparisons between COVID-19 and every other cause of death under the sun, including but not limited to: cancer, heart attacks, car accidents, hunger, meteor strikes?



I'd like these answered to my satisfaction, thanks.

[Gandalf]

I'll be doing the asking now.

1. What is the driving force behind trying to belittle/deny the gravity of the pandemic?

2. Why the refusal to look at the already given and posted (by me) numbers comparing COVID-19 with the flu?

3. Why the anger and resentment for those people who choose to obey social distancing guidelines and protect themselves?

4. Why the dogged relentless questions about cause of death?

5. Why the persistent comparisons between COVID-19 and every other cause of death under the sun, including but not limited to: cancer, heart attacks, car accidents, hunger, meteor strikes?



I'd like these answered to my satisfaction, thanks.

1. I think it is a meaningful health issue, but it does not compare with prior pandemics. Maybe I say this from a place where it has been controlled.

2. I have looked at the data and the risk of Covid is clearly higher than flu given the data, but if many have had it and not been tested then that also skews the data too. Heck, Beanz and his family may have had it and all alive. If added to the numbers the death rate declines. All I know is that 0.4% chance of death is relatively low. And even lower considering I am not obese, with diabetes, heart issues etc. Of course it is an issue, but still relatively low. Get healthy and you are even less likely to die from it.

3. I think people should social distance. I do it myself and I wear a mask. I just do not think a man alone in a park reading a book or a guy on the ocean surfing is an issue.

4. Cause of death is important. For instance if you have stage 4 cancer and then catch Covid it will push you over, but you were 90% likely to die very soon anyway. It's like a person with AIDS getting the flu. Of course the flu killed him, but he had AIDS. It is important to put that into perspective.

5. I compare because more people have died this year from other conditions than been even infected with covid. It puts it into perspective. You are more likely to die from something than even get infected with Covid. For most it is a bad flu, for some it is more serious, most recover. You cannot say the same for late stage cancer. It kills far more and we do nothing to detect it. More Americans have died from other things in far greater numbers than even died globally from Corona. It is just a bit of perspective again.

Corona is not everything, it does not shape all health concerns, it does not kill everyone, but we should take it seriously and be responsible in our efforts to contain it. Maybe you will see it from my position in say a month.

[TIC]

I'll be doing the asking now.

1. What is the driving force behind trying to belittle/deny the gravity of the pandemic?

2. Why the refusal to look at the already given and posted (by me) numbers comparing COVID-19 with the flu?

3. Why the anger and resentment for those people who choose to obey social distancing guidelines and protect themselves?

4. Why the dogged relentless questions about cause of death?

5. Why the persistent comparisons between COVID-19 and every other cause of death under the sun, including but not limited to: cancer, heart attacks, car accidents, hunger, meteor strikes?



I'd like these answered to my satisfaction, thanks.

asking for proof is not belittling or denying anything. those numbers are not proof & have already been criticized. no anger at those that choose to social distance, just don't force me to follow your ideas without proof. not sure what you mean in question four. you forgot tuberculosis, it's about saving lives right? there are things that cause much more death that haven't shutdown the world & don't receive the necessary attention they should

[Beanz]

I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.

Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet . Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.

I believe you, but also when one says they are healthy, are they always healthy? I question that because many have conditions that they just do not know of. There are people with cancer in their bodies for more than a decade and they didn't know, there are people with heart problems that they put down to digestion issues. They never knew. Then when something else comes along, then they go. There are millions right now in America who think they are healthy, but unless they do the full checks they just do not know. Many are not even insured. Heck, my estrogen was a case in point. Not harmful, but you just do not know what is happening unless you get the data back.

Your 4 days symptoms sound like one of my panic attacks and are a sign that you need some serious rest! Don't work yourself too hard and go easy on yourself. Some have stress from not working at all, others have stress from working too much. Heck people are even killing themselves because they cannot leave the house. All sorts of strange physiological things are at work in times of immense abnormality.

Seriously Gladys?

Punch yourself in the face for your own good.

Not just moving the goalposts but smashing them up, burying them and then pretending you have never even heard of football.