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    Default Re: three guys you 100% think beat canelo

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I think you’re building Canelo up to be some sort of superhero here. Don’t get me wrong, he’s good, very good, but there’s no doubt he’s been cleverly matched.
    If he fought Beterbiev or Bivol, (which unquestionably he wouldn’t ! “Risk/reward and all that.) it would be the first time that he’s given away the right to any advantages .
    Well second time actually, and when that happened, Floyd beat him.
    do you think austin, floyd, erislandy, ggg & jacobs were clever matching?
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    Default Re: three guys you 100% think beat canelo

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I think you’re building Canelo up to be some sort of superhero here. Don’t get me wrong, he’s good, very good, but there’s no doubt he’s been cleverly matched.
    If he fought Beterbiev or Bivol, (which unquestionably he wouldn’t ! “Risk/reward and all that.) it would be the first time that he’s given away the right to any advantages .
    Well second time actually, and when that happened, Floyd beat him.
    do you think austin, floyd, erislandy, ggg & jacobs were clever matching?
    Trout - meh ! Why shouldn’t he have fought him and beat him at the time? Or do you have to have a whole career of dead certs?
    Floyd - no . I said that, if you care to look.
    Lara - a lot of people thought he lost.
    GGG - undoubtedly yes! I have to say it’s just as much Golovkin’s fault for hanging on Canelo’s nuts for the big payday. But there’s no doubt he waited for Golovkin to grow old . Have to say, he fully deserved his win and draw in my opinion .
    Jacobs - kinda. I like Jacobs, but he wasn’t active enough in his career fights wise for whatever reasons , GBP took advantage of that and sneaked a win.
    You make it sound like me saying he was cleverly matched is a criticism, whereas it’s not , if anything it’s a compliment. “Law of the Jungle, A-side,B-side” and all that.
    But hey, i’ll See your names, and raise you Rhodes, Hatton, Gomez,Cintron , Moseley, Angulo, Kirkland, Khan, Liam Smith, Chavez, Fielding and Kovalev, and tell me he wasn’t “cleverly matched” against them?
    Don’t get me wrong, with his record, I wouldn’t argue too strongly with his p4p ranking.
    It’s not insulting him to say he could lose to Callum Smith and he would lose to Bivol and Beterbiev. they’re bigger guys with loads of power to someone who started at WW.
    Last edited by Primo Carnera; 04-29-2020 at 06:56 PM.
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    There isn't a fighter who ever boxed you can't play that game with. Canelo has fought a slew of guys he'd get major flack for having not fought otherwise, in fact most of them. Whether anyone like him personally or the way his team negotiates means sweet fuck all... That shouldn't have to be said, but apparently does.

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    I do not think Canelo has improved enough to beat that Floyd he lost against. He is still slow footed, does not cut the ring enough and gets out boxed for many rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I do not think Canelo has improved enough to beat that Floyd he lost against. He is still slow footed, does not cut the ring enough and gets out boxed for many rounds.
    canelo fights at middleweight & above these days, floyd was never great enough to make it to that weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I do not think Canelo has improved enough to beat that Floyd he lost against. He is still slow footed, does not cut the ring enough and gets out boxed for many rounds.
    canelo fights at middleweight & above these days, floyd was never great enough big enough to begin with to make it to that weight


    Fixed it for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    I do not think Canelo has improved enough to beat that Floyd he lost against. He is still slow footed, does not cut the ring enough and gets out boxed for many rounds.
    canelo fights at middleweight & above these days, floyd was never great enough big enough to begin with to make it to that weight


    Fixed it for ya.
    no i had it right the first time. other greats started at lighter weights than floyd & fought at middleweight. you are like this girl when someone mentions canelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I think you’re building Canelo up to be some sort of superhero here. Don’t get me wrong, he’s good, very good, but there’s no doubt he’s been cleverly matched.
    If he fought Beterbiev or Bivol, (which unquestionably he wouldn’t ! “Risk/reward and all that.) it would be the first time that he’s given away the right to any advantages .
    Well second time actually, and when that happened, Floyd beat him.
    do you think austin, floyd, erislandy, ggg & jacobs were clever matching?
    Trout - meh ! Why shouldn’t he have fought him and beat him at the time? Or do you have to have a whole career of dead certs?
    Floyd - no . I said that, if you care to look.
    Lara - a lot of people thought he lost.
    GGG - undoubtedly yes! I have to say it’s just as much Golovkin’s fault for hanging on Canelo’s nuts for the big payday. But there’s no doubt he waited for Golovkin to grow old . Have to say, he fully deserved his win and draw in my opinion .
    Jacobs - kinda. I like Jacobs, but he wasn’t active enough in his career fights wise for whatever reasons , GBP took advantage of that and sneaked a win.
    You make it sound like me saying he was cleverly matched is a criticism, whereas it’s not , if anything it’s a compliment. “Law of the Jungle, A-side,B-side” and all that.
    But hey, i’ll See your names, and raise you Rhodes, Hatton, Gomez,Cintron , Moseley, Angulo, Kirkland, Khan, Liam Smith, Chavez, Fielding and Kovalev, and tell me he wasn’t “cleverly matched” against them?
    Don’t get me wrong, with his record, I wouldn’t argue too strongly with his p4p ranking.
    It’s not insulting him to say he could lose to Callum Smith and he would lose to Bivol and Beterbiev. they’re bigger guys with loads of power to someone who started at WW.
    wasn't trout for the ring belt? he was considered a top guy. i know you said floyd but was it clever matching? it was good money but a serious challenge against one of the best fighters of recent times. he chose to fight erislandy. do you think he was the pick to win the ggg fights? so sergiy d shouldn't have bothered fighting the old guy? he fought jacobs after his performance against ggg. by saying matched cleverly you make it sound like he wasn't in risky fights. every fighter has some padding. canelo would retire callum, dmitry & artur are big risks who fight two weights above middleweight & as you say canelo started at welterweight
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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