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    Default Re: Sweden becomes country with highest coronavirus death rate per capita

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    I do not disagree with the mortality rate, but by building up immunity in many, where are the millions of organ failures? Again do not get me wrong, I know it happens for some, but I am not making grand numerical claims here. Surely the Swedes would be in terrible trouble with people reporting lung and heart and kidney damage in huge numbers. Is that happening? Is this backed up by the data Nobel?
    You're only questioning the data because Sweden is a white nation. In fact Sweden is the mother of all white nations. And you don't like to see white nations, especially nations like Sweden associated with disease.
    That is such a silly argument. Disease or viruses can occur anywhere. Weren't you the one claiming white people get it more because they are weak or something?
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    I do not disagree with the mortality rate, but by building up immunity in many, where are the millions of organ failures? Again do not get me wrong, I know it happens for some, but I am not making grand numerical claims here. Surely the Swedes would be in terrible trouble with people reporting lung and heart and kidney damage in huge numbers. Is that happening? Is this backed up by the data Nobel?
    You're only questioning the data because Sweden is a white nation. In fact Sweden is the mother of all white nations. And you don't like to see white nations, especially nations like Sweden associated with disease.
    That is such a silly argument. Disease or viruses can occur anywhere. Weren't you the one claiming white people get it more because they are weak or something?
    You're making a strawman. I never said that diseases or viruses can't occur any were.

    I'm saying that the only reason you're questioning these facts is that you don't like the fact that a country like Sweden, which is the Mecca of whiteness, is associated with this disease. You just don't like that stain.
    No, it is pointing out a racist absurdity that you made. I did not mention race until you brought it up for no good reason. That's your issue and you cannot put an argument out there that I have not posited. That is you projecting and you can deal with your own hangups.
    If the thread stated that Nigeria or Cameroon had the highest COVID rates you wouldn't have questioned it.

    Sweden is symbolically a pure white nation that's why you question these facts.
    What on earth are you trying to argue?

    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.

    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.

    And you want to talk about strawmen? Crikey.

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    Default Re: Sweden becomes country with highest coronavirus death rate per capita

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 05-21-2020 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    Shit big D made four posts that were Free of anti white comments. Didn’t take long for the racist shit to kick in

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    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    Shit big D made four posts that were Free of anti white comments. Didn’t take long for the racist shit to kick in
    What anti white comments have I written so far ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    Shit big D made four posts that were Free of anti white comments. Didn’t take long for the racist shit to kick in
    What anti white comments have I written so far ?
    Probably so ingrained in you you don’t even notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    Shit big D made four posts that were Free of anti white comments. Didn’t take long for the racist shit to kick in
    What anti white comments have I written so far ?
    Probably so ingrained in you you don’t even notice
    Right, yeah, like you guys have no prob throwing around the 13/80 principle about a certain section of the pop committing a certain % of crimes. Just throw it around arrogantly without even noticing. I see it in comments every fooking day. 13/80 or even 13/90 I see written in comments. YOu guys qwrite it and think it without even noticing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    Shit big D made four posts that were Free of anti white comments. Didn’t take long for the racist shit to kick in
    What anti white comments have I written so far ?
    Probably so ingrained in you you don’t even notice
    Right, yeah, like you guys have no prob throwing around the 13/80 principle about a certain section of the pop committing a certain % of crimes. Just throw it around arrogantly without even noticing. I see it in comments every fooking day. 13/80 or even 13/90 I see written in comments. YOu guys qwrite it and think it without even noticing.
    Just start another wuhan thread despite us already having to many Michael Brock 50p Italian

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    Shit big D made four posts that were Free of anti white comments. Didn’t take long for the racist shit to kick in
    What anti white comments have I written so far ?
    Probably so ingrained in you you don’t even notice
    Right, yeah, like you guys have no prob throwing around the 13/80 principle about a certain section of the pop committing a certain % of crimes. Just throw it around arrogantly without even noticing. I see it in comments every fooking day. 13/80 or even 13/90 I see written in comments. YOu guys qwrite it and think it without even noticing.
    Off script again Brock. Start another thread if you want to hash that out.

    I will point out facts and you can either accept or deny them, but surely this thread is about Sweden butchering its own people, right? It is your thread so own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    They been doing it like that for so long, they are subconsciously doing it, they don't even and won't even admit it, through so many generations that it has become a normal smugness ingrained in them. When one tells them, they feign outrage. Or they try to claim they didn't say that. Remember these are the great great grandchildren, in many, many cases, of the original white slave owners. The "Manifest Destiny" crowd. Fucking hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    What on earth are you trying to argue?
    Normally I ignore you, even when you quote me. But from time to time I have to point out certain contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I consider Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration. However, that is another issue entirely.
    That means there's too many black people in Sweden.

    But you're not brave enough to talk like that. So you take the cowards way out and say "Sweden to have been a basket case when it comes to immigration." as I say you can slip this line at a cocktail party and as long as you can act civilized you sneak around the halls of Academia, you are safe.

    You don't give a crap if white immigrants from neighbouring places Norway, Denmark are immigrants in Sweden.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Stop inventing positions and stick to arguments that have actually been made.
    What white supremacists does is present their point of view right up until it is a clearly racist statement.

    The way white supremacists "claim" all the important stuff was invented by white people, but fall short of actually saying white people are naturally better because of it. Or point to IQ or crime stats to make a point about black people.

    They makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that blacks are inherently dumber and more violent than whites and Asians) but short of saying whites are better b4 they stop and wink at you.

    They are not going to say whites are better but they will allow their followers to say it for them.

    This gives guys like you an "out". Yes you have not said "There are too many black ppl in Sweden" so if someone calls you out on this you can play dumb and say "I didn't say there are many black ppl in Sweden. Stop inventing arguments....."

    White supremacist have not literally said it but they imply it and they have no problem with their followers saying it.

    None of what you are saying or doing here makes any sense. You brought race into a thread that has nothing to do with race.

    That was the original strawman. You are inventing an argument.

    I do not disagree with Sweden's approach here. I don't think it has anything to do with race. If you want to talk about race maybe you should start a thread.

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    None of what you are saying or doing here makes any sense.
    What part of what I wrote are you struggling to understand ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    You brought race into a thread that has nothing to do with race.
    The problem is not that I see racism in everything. The problem is that people like you and ppl who think like you see racism in nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    That was the original strawman. You are inventing an argument.
    OK. But I'm not lying.

    You suffer in the area of perception, it’s limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and call the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown. Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause.

    You like to present yourself neutral and objective, all about facts and reasons, but when facts came in about Sweden all of sudden you questioned it. Why ? Because it's all show, more for your own benefit than for mine because you certainly are not fooling me.

    Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
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    None of what you are saying or doing here makes any sense.
    What part of what I wrote are you struggling to understand ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    You brought race into a thread that has nothing to do with race.
    The problem is not that I see racism in everything. The problem is that people like you and ppl who think like you see racism in nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    That was the original strawman. You are inventing an argument.
    OK. But I'm not lying.

    You suffer in the area of perception, it’s limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and call the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown. Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause.

    You like to present yourself neutral and objective, all about facts and reasons, but when facts came in about Sweden all of sudden you questioned it. Why ? Because it's all show, more for your own benefit than for mine because you certainly are not fooling me.

    Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.
    Its like I had said, his data is always "true" but he says others' data is "illegitimate\insufficient/false". He wants to set the bar for what consitutes "sufficient" and what does "not."

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    ooga booga
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    i love charles barkley
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Sweden becomes country with highest coronavirus death rate per capita

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Its like I had said, his data is always "true" but he says others' data is "illegitimate\insufficient/false". He wants to set the bar for what consitutes "sufficient" and what does "not."
    Exactly. Gandalf will google search a link and claim that's the truth.

    It's the US and THEM way of thinking most white supremacists have.

    Us: We are better than we are (collective self-esteem), our shortcomings are due to circumstances (attribution error), we got to help each other out (in-group favouritism, the main cause of discrimination, not any sort of out-group hatred).

    Them: They are all alike (out-group homogenization), they fit stereotypes as proved by selective sampling (confirmation bias), they are worse than they are (out-group derogation), their shortcomings are because they are (ew/gasp) one of Them (attribution error).

    When these lines become part of the culture they get passed down by parent and teacher, becoming part of “the way things are”.

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