He was better than a journeyman (granted the definition is slightly different from UK to USA) but he'd scrape plenty of weight-class top ten lists depending on the era. Not great as in SRR great, but put it this way, he has more fight of the years and thrillers than the vast majority of all-time greats/HOF-ers. He's the type who could have, depending on styles, beat plenty of "world" champs. And his left hook to the body was elite lethal.


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