Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
Back in the day we read about more fights than what we saw, which made the fighters more heroic and the era more romantic, however, we were totally influenced by the narrative of the time/writer.

Today we get to see every single contest, therefore, young fighters go from future stars to "bum" overnight (See Josh Kelly). Why? Because they have a tough night with a "no-name." And likewise young "hype jobs" turn into world-beaters over night after spectacularly ironing out a "no-name."

Put any all-time great, from any era, under the same scrutiny today, half the fans who wax lyrical about Ali, Roy, Hagler, Leonard, Chavez, whoever, would be calling them "overrated," "bum," "ducker," "coward," etc.

Here's a test? Name how many all-time great/HOF-ers Ali, Foreman and FRazier beat?
I definitely agree that the way that boxing runs today creates an unfortunate narrative for many fighters. It’s way too focused on records and less focused on the overall fighter. Just like other sports that have tons of games per season, you aren’t going to go undefeated and that’s alright. The issue is that with boxing, you generally don’t go on like normal after a loss. Like when Lubin got knocked out by Charlo in the first round. He got protected again rather than getting to prove that he belongs up there or not. So sometimes we don’t really know how good someone is because they get protected after a loss.

As for your question about how many HOFers Ali, Foreman, and Frazier beat. I’m not sure because I’m not sure who is inducted into the HOF.