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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    did the guy die or not? i don't know but things look staged. either way it got the desired result. order out of chaos. no one is buying the covid 19 bullshit so they need to create another rodney king further inciting the kgb long term objective of a race war in america & another reason for marshall law. divide & conquer

    Damn..... can't get nothin' past ya.

    George Floyd is actually alive and well and having a few cold ones with The Great Conspirators. They sure didn't count on your cunning and investigative prowess.

    Little did they know you're the star reporter for "Conspiracies R Us".
    just keep believing what you see on the tv
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    Also it wasn't just one cop kneeling on him but three.

    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 05-29-2020 at 08:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Big D I don’t give what color the person is who is doing it, it’s fucked up regardless of race. Blame CNN they are putting pics of black people not zooming in on the whites. I will admit if the crowd got into a Rolex store I would be tempted to go in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post

    The guy on the right .... so, he has gone into a shop to loot it. But with all the stuff that is in there, he leaves with a fucking MANNEQUIN? He chose to take the store dummy (not its clothes)! More than one dummy in that photo.

    Somehing rather sexual going on their, methinks. Mind you, he has a face mask on so he is socially responsible in some tiny minuscule way.

    The Asian lady in the background isn't wearing a mask. Naughty naughty person. Clearly not an experienced looter either as she will now be recognised on the CCTV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    You just gave a textbook example of how to modify your initial view based on seeing a few more facts. If only everyone here was as flexible...

    It's why you and I can totally disagree on something, and yet argue like civil, logical adults. But again, if only...

    Back to Floyd however. Let's just say he had resisted arrest. I say his killing by the police officer still amounts to murder.

    Nowhere in the police handbook does it justify the killing of a citizen because they've resisted arrest.

    They're only supposed to use enough force to subdue the person and perform the arrest.

    But lately, especially with "white cop/black man", nothing could be further from reality.

    Plenty of killings have happened without due cause.

    Remember.... the officer's life or welfare must be endangered before he should be able to use lethal force.

    We're waaaaaayyyyy beyond that now... don't you think?

    Police forces across America are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Gotta get those rotten apples outta there.
    I like to be as informed as possible before committing to one side or the other. Otherwise you're just being used by one side or the other as a dupe.


    Yes you and I are good like that we can disagree but understand each other's point of view.


    If George Floyd HAD resisted in the situation he was in, being subdued is one thing, being murdered is completely different. Even Bernard Kerik former police commissioner of the NYPD said what the officer did was all kinds of wrong. Yes the officer SHOULD be charged with murder and I think the other 3 officers as well need to be charged either with negligence or something because none of them stopped Chauvin from what he did and the whole "just following orders" thing doesn't jive. That said psychologically groupthink is a difficult thing to shake, there's plenty of studies to show the impact of it. So in order to be righteous in response to this a jury would have to take that under consideration.


    As for the rotten apples and the cops....well if there's no respect for the law and there's no respect FROM the law then we're going to have trouble. People don't want to live in fear of criminals but likewise they don't want to live in fear of cops. There's a balance, a homeostasis that we need to return to or achieve. Rioting is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live, letting criminal cops slide is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live.

    How do we achieve those things is the big question.

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    We don't. Because this s*** hole has bad karma. You going down with the ship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    We don't. Because this s*** hole has bad karma. You going down with the ship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    You just gave a textbook example of how to modify your initial view based on seeing a few more facts. If only everyone here was as flexible...

    It's why you and I can totally disagree on something, and yet argue like civil, logical adults. But again, if only...

    Back to Floyd however. Let's just say he had resisted arrest. I say his killing by the police officer still amounts to murder.

    Nowhere in the police handbook does it justify the killing of a citizen because they've resisted arrest.

    They're only supposed to use enough force to subdue the person and perform the arrest.

    But lately, especially with "white cop/black man", nothing could be further from reality.

    Plenty of killings have happened without due cause.

    Remember.... the officer's life or welfare must be endangered before he should be able to use lethal force.

    We're waaaaaayyyyy beyond that now... don't you think?

    Police forces across America are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Gotta get those rotten apples outta there.
    I like to be as informed as possible before committing to one side or the other. Otherwise you're just being used by one side or the other as a dupe.


    Yes you and I are good like that we can disagree but understand each other's point of view.


    If George Floyd HAD resisted in the situation he was in, being subdued is one thing, being murdered is completely different. Even Bernard Kerik former police commissioner of the NYPD said what the officer did was all kinds of wrong. Yes the officer SHOULD be charged with murder and I think the other 3 officers as well need to be charged either with negligence or something because none of them stopped Chauvin from what he did and the whole "just following orders" thing doesn't jive. That said psychologically groupthink is a difficult thing to shake, there's plenty of studies to show the impact of it. So in order to be righteous in response to this a jury would have to take that under consideration.


    As for the rotten apples and the cops....well if there's no respect for the law and there's no respect FROM the law then we're going to have trouble. People don't want to live in fear of criminals but likewise they don't want to live in fear of cops. There's a balance, a homeostasis that we need to return to or achieve. Rioting is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live, letting criminal cops slide is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live.

    How do we achieve those things is the big question.

    What a mealy mouthed piss poor excuse. You can't wait to condemn people usually, and yet here you are pretending that there is some kind of circumstance that would make kneeling on someone's neck until they die not murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    What a mealy mouthed piss poor excuse. You can't wait to condemn people usually, and yet here you are pretending that there is some kind of circumstance that would make kneeling on someone's neck until they die not murder.
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    So I’m hearing this cop had a file of complaints prior to this event. I also heard the DA found additional evidence that would make this difficult to prosecute as murder. Heard that this morning around 6:40a don’t know if the evidence they referred to was released. IMO looked like murder to me. I don’t particularly like cops to begin with. I fought 6 or 7 cops one night, they had surrounded me, I woke up the next morning with bruises in places I didn’t know you could get bruised. There were six of them, yes I deserved a beating but they didn’t need to use clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    No. It starts before that.

    There is video of Floyd already handcuffed and being led around by a police officer. In no way shape or form is the guy even remotely close to "resisting arrest", the go-to excuse for all police murders nowadays.
    The one posted here just started with him on the ground already. I've checked into a bit more and seen more videos yeah, I'd say George Floyd was cooperating fully and under complete control of the 4 officers. I've got 0 clue as to how he got to be underneath the 3 officers and that's unacceptable for anyone to hold someone down with a knee to the carotid artery. What the fuck did he think was going to happen?

    Another thing which bothers me is that apparently EMS/Fire checked for a pulse but didn't do any lifesaving procedures which is just as terrifying as how those officers acted.


    All that being said all rioting will do is harm working people and then the cops get called in to enforce the law and then what happens all over again?
    that isn't procedure after checking for a pulse, no cpr, no defibrillator, red flags. they looked like armed police with vests on, not ems
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