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Ignorance is not the same thing as stupidity.
There is a narrative that people like to maintain because stories are the way we model the world, but ignorance of vital parts of the jigsaw distort that view in the same way as an optical illusion.
The whole NWO and Freemason thing is just another example of ripping out one page and kidding yourself that you have read the book.
Even seemingly educated and knowledgeable people are vulnerable and the fact that we are blind to our own ignorance is what makes conspiracies so attractive.
I have seen friends who left the same cult I grew up under, rush to numerous conspiracies as a quick religious fix to substitute that comfortable small world view where your own secret knowledge provides you with a key to understanding that refers a complex world in an overly simplistic way
It is the same motivation for many here rushing to portray me as not understanding satire and irony despite years of employing it daily here for years. If you pretend I have no sense of humour It makes it far more acceptable to get nasty and personal and dismiss any uncomfortable truths I might bring up.
It is the same ignorance that assumes skinhead means white neo-nazi and not black anti fascist, or that criticising a person, party or attitude means support of equally misguided idiots who may also rightly criticise the same foolish humans.
Evidence of Trump being authoritarian. Evidence of him calling for harming PROTESTERS rather than rioters and looters or do you even bother to differentiate between them? I know you've got a hard on for Antifa so maybe you merge "Peaceful Protest" with destruction of property.
Trump ordered it? You don't seem to understand how the President moving from place to place works....but oh please do respond with your typical emotional overreaction.
You've taken what I've said and posted and either deliberately misunderstood it OR you've done it by mistake in which case you'd probably be better off asking for clarification to make certain. But hey you know best.
Tears? I'm merely pointing out the inconsistency which you are keen to ignore. Why? Because once you paid any attention to that at all you'd understand Obama empowered division, he's no healer. Time will tell with Trump and believe me there's a lot of shit that is yet to happen or don't believe me and be surprised.
Oh did I directly call you a "traitor" I honestly can't recall. I know you skew more European than British and hell what's "British" anyway if not an amalgamation of other cultures right? Is being called a "traitor" worse or what you've called me in the past and at present?
You'd be the expert on ignorance and stupidity.
What NWO & Freemason thing, what the actual fuck are you talking about?
It's not a conspiracy to ask if you understand satire, it's asking for clarification because you consistently twist shit up in your head. You're never not doing that! You're forever taking the absolute WORST assumption of myself and others and then what you expect me to treat you with ANY kind of respect? The hubris on display by you is breathtaking.
Statement from United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan about the actions taken over the weekend to protect life and property
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/uspp/6_...ef_monahan.htm
The United States Park Police (USPP) is committed to the peaceful expression of First Amendment rights. However, this past weekend’s demonstrations at Lafayette Park and across the National Mall included activities that were not part of a peaceful protest, which resulted in injuries to USPP officers in the line of duty, the destruction of public property and the defacing of memorials and monuments. During four days of demonstrations, 51 members of the USPP were injured; of those, 11 were transported to the hospital and released and three were admitted.
Multiple agencies assisted the USPP in responding to and quelling the acts of destruction and violence over the course of the weekend in order to protect citizens and property.
On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.
Throughout the demonstrations, the USPP has not made any arrests. The USPP will always support peaceful assembly but cannot tolerate violence to citizens or officers or damage to our nation’s resources that we are entrusted to protect.
Care to amend your previous post or double down?
i believe beanz is on task. not paid but definitely on task
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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Believe it or not not every post in every thread is directed personally toward you. The NWO / Freemason post you are struggling to understand was addressing the thread subject and was in response to Greys reminding newbies like yourself that we have been reading about the NWO etc for literally decades now. In fact when i first posted here you and some of the absolute dickheads you agree with now where ripping the piss out of anyone mentioning any conspiracy theory and calling them tin hat wearers etc.
And yes i am an expert on ignorance and stupidity as are all humans. This is what makes us what we are. We are not the mini gods our brains kid ourselves into believing. You by the way, are way, way less than charitable in your assessment of my capability to employ and recognise satire or understand psychology and human behaviour. Breathtakingly so. So when i posted the Rochdale Herald satirical article I don't belive for one minute you thought i was unaware it was satire you just did not know how to respond when your incomplete incredibly biased and simplistic view of the world was challenged. Exactly the same as you being silent and ignoring video evidence of peaceful protestors grabbing the bloke digging up the sidewalk and handing him to the police.
You have a narrative and you stick to it, YOU HAVE NO( INTEREST IN TRUTH. None.
You just want confirmation of your own very child like bias.
So when you accuse me of not differentiating between peaceful protestors and rioters and looters what you are really doing is seeking confirmation of your own polarised thinking. That is the way you model the world. I don't look at the world like that. You have always done that.
The truth is that you and your mainstream mates here are constantly trying to FORCE other posters to not only agree with you 100% of the time but also to post in the same style as you, like some hectoring jock at a frat party deciding on who should be first to be initiated before spending their life slaving for a corporation.
Fuck that.
And no i don't have a hard on for AntiFa because they don't even exist. I am an Antifascist along with millions all over the world and we are as diverse and disperate as Christians in Jordan and Christians in Northern Ireland.
As a committed Anti Fascist until i draw my last breath i can assure you that means i hate and will oppose in any way necessary the propaganda, actions and activities of Fascists.
Fascist though who you and many here rush to defend hate and will attack, kill and destroy the lives of
Academics
Anarchists
Black People
Communists
The Disabled
Ethnic Minorities
Feminists
Homosexuals
Intellectuals
Jews
Muslims
Socialists
Transgender People
Union Members
in fact anyone not exactly like them
I get than many here have much more in common with Fascists than Anti Fascists and get embarrassed by me mentioning it but it is not my job to spare the feeling of idiots.
Trump included.
and you think i am twisiting things up in My head?![]()
beanz has to be here, he is on task. he is more than likely on multiple platforms spewing the same bullshit
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it is a forum yeh? if you were replying directly to el kabong then why mention his mainstream mates? i am replying directly to you. have you provided the link where i pretended to be a yank yet? keep searching. & i'll have the one where i said i was a brit as well thanks. everyone here knows you are a liar. i've always been an australian. i've been aware of your stalker games from early on here. you have to be here, because those above you tell you to be. just like you have to do on many other sites. basically a bot
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Oh well OK then, pardon me for not knowing whom you were referring to what with there being 0 posts by other users between my post and your 3 responses and you never mentioned anyone else in your post. I guess that's just another thing I've got to use my ESP on. I'm supposed to know the unknown and unknowable and God fucking help me if I ask for clarification.
As for the tin hat wearer comment, do you mean like the poster you're so cozy with right now? Like THAT guy? Want me to go back to ripping on Brockton? I am getting mixed signals because I do that now and it seems to upset you. Is HE right now and I'm in the wrong? My my how the tables turn, guess I've got to do better
When you post satire and don't comment on it when it's placed in a thread where there's serious conversation occurring and given your politics and your penchant for taking things the wrong way...yeah I questioned it, what of it? If you knew THAT was satire then I guess you misread some of my posts on purpose is what that leads me to believe.
Nice projection
Oh honey, it's not JUST you who can't call the peaceful protesters from the rioters and looters it's the media too. You've got this mindset which is quite simple "I'm an Antifascist and therefore anyone who disagrees with me is a Fascist and I'm allowed to respond to them however I like what with them being Fascist and all. Insults, violence, etc...Fascists aren't even people and if you disagree with me, the Antifascist well then you're a Fascist and death is too good for you"....must be nice to consider any and all who oppose you to be evil spawns of Satan.
I don't force views, I like to discuss things, I like to run through some thought experiments and you're very much against those things because you always take my questions or hypothetical situations as this is what I want or this is how I view things 100% of the time. It's like you're allergic to nuance.
Antifa doesn't exist? How do you figure? I guess the Mafia doesn't exist either.
Be Anti-Fascist but know that not everyone who disagrees with you is a Fascist. For example, I personally am not a Fascist. Never have been one, despite you calling me that. In fact there's a great many things you call me that I'm not. But hey I can't tell you a God damn thing because of how you read and respond. Always emotional overreaction, always. "I'm not mad" Yeah ok, I guess you just accuse people of Fascism without any rise in your blood pressure, I guess you just assume the very worst of me without the bat of an eye....and that certainly seems better doesn't it? That you accuse me of such evil so nonchalantly?
So Fascists will destroy all those people but there's no Antifa? Seems legit.
I'm glad you think not only that I'm Fascist but that I'm also an idiot. And again, not so much as a raised pulse in these accusations.
Yes you're absolutely twisting things up in your head.
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The fact that you have to break everything down into bite sized chunks and then tie yourself in knots defending the indefensible rather than just accepting most people are not quite as stupid as you, speaks volumes El Kabong.
You are just constantly begging to be called a Nazi or a Fascist so the you can justify your own stupefying silence on what most people would consider to be pretty basic common values. You think you are so special that you can not even see the hilarious hypocrisy of willfully misreading everything written by everyone, whilst invoking the same incredulous response as the fake woke people you so accurately mirror. Here you are telling where i can post satire and complaining that i do not at mention people, to make things perfectly clear to people like yourself who can see no further than the tip of your nose, because your head is always up your arse.
It is a thread entitled 'Conspiracy Theories' and like the PC muppet that you have always been, you fake incredulity when i mention the NWO and Freemasons as though they have nothing to do with Conspiracy theories. You use the place like a soapbox, when you could be using it as an opportunity to stop hectoring people who have been where you are now 20+ yrs ago, and actually learn something.
Pretty much the response I expected from you.
I didn't tell you where to post the satire you shared. All I wanted to do was make sure you knew it was satire because you didn't comment on it at all you just posted the article and given your history of misunderstanding me and my posts yeah I questioned whether or not you knew that was satire and so I asked. I didn't say "don't post it" I didn't say "you can't post that here" those are things I NEVER did Beanz.
Also I didn't say you had to @ mention anyone. You didn't respond with a quote, you didn't mention a poster by name, I posted, you responded to me, you posted again, you posted a third time and it was in response to SOMEONE. So if you do that and you don't mention the poster you're responding to and you don't quote the post you're responding to then I guess you leave that up for interpretation ergo my asking "What are you on about?" to which you could have said "Oh, that was a response to ______ and not you" but you didn't you chose your default position which is to be combative towards me.
Fake incredulity? I merely asked what you were talking about. What the actual fuck Beanz? Do you think I know what goes on inside your head?
You've NEVER been where I am or where I'm from and likewise I've never been where you are or where you're from....so one would assume that clear communication between us would be a positive in allowing each other to get a glimpse of understanding, but nah feel free to continue being combative with me as fucking usual.
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