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    All the extremist "protest" groups are nothing but trouble making cunts, they love the aggro like the Tommy Robinson "counter" mob love the aggro. The two extremes deserve each other.

    And the majority of other protesters are middle-class virtue signalling hypocrites, like the celebs, swanning back to their predominantly white middle-class areas.

    If you explained to the "real" majority that a statue of a man who shipped 100,000 bods across the Atlantic whilst brandishing them with his company logo and chucking 20,000 dead in the sea they'd vote NO to erecting a bloody statue. But now in London they're ripping down statues of people who were "related" to slave traders. Wonder where this ends?

    This morning all over the media i've learnt Churchill and Hitler - no difference.

    Ha!

    So there are only a very tiny minority of genuine people and every one else is either an extremist or a virtue signalling hypocrite ( and even more so if they are middle class or celebs who could not possibly be interested in any rights but their own could they? ha! ).

    Did you figure all this out from your sofa?


    Yes there are plenty of idiots, but even you can't pretend that there was no counter argument to Churchill and Hitler being no different, and also that people from the center were not offering their opinion too.


    I can remember once years ago here, saying to someone that even though i am anything but a Royalist, we should have a full and frank discussion about it and then a vote, as people then could not moan if the monarchy then had to use their own money.



    That then made me a Royalist .


    You could not make it up.


    It is like the Brexit thing. People pretended it was a free and open vote to be respected, but despite never moaning about the result, merely voting to remain made me forever in the eyes of everyone a 'Remoaner'. Worse than that 'A traitor' and that from an American and an ex Pat . So no real respect of another opinion at all. Many on the left voted leave and among them some friends fell out with me because I was not left leaning enough by joining them. Crazy stuff.
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    A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

    I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

    My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.
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    What about the workers who will have to remove the statute from Bristol harbour ?

    Let's hear it for unappreciated quay workers
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    What about the workers who will have to remove the statute from Bristol harbour ?

    Let's hear it for unappreciated quay workers
    Mate. A 'man with a van' would have had ropes around that thing before it hit the deck ready to weigh it in as soon as the scrappers are open
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    A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

    I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

    My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.
    Again you are just resorting to the very same polarised sensationalist rubbish you believe you are better than. You sound like El Kabong calling anything he has no comprehension of 'communist'.

    I am not a 'Cultural Marxist' just because people invoking the most intolerant stupid political correctness use it as a bed wetting excuse to run away from complexity.

    And I am not part of a mob, quite the opposite. You can't have it both ways. Part of being what you and 'your mob' call being an SJW etc is being a proponent of diversity, and that includes diversity of thought and opinion.

    The uncomfortable truth is that often the vast majority by their ignorance and refusal to act allow evil to go unchecked. People in this country have a real issue with history in that they refuse to engage with it. Look at the revisionism that has sunk so far into people's consciousness that ex pats and other irrelevant one note racist nobodies become the most prominent voice in the conversation. Their own backward fantasies are projected as if they were some kind of substitute for facts, history and real life lived experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

    I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

    My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.
    Again you are just resorting to the very same polarised sensationalist rubbish you believe you are better than. You sound like El Kabong calling anything he has no comprehension of 'communist'.

    I am not a 'Cultural Marxist' just because people invoking the most intolerant stupid political correctness use it as a bed wetting excuse to run away from complexity.

    And I am not part of a mob, quite the opposite. You can't have it both ways. Part of being what you and 'your mob' call being an SJW etc is being a proponent of diversity, and that includes diversity of thought and opinion.

    The uncomfortable truth is that often the vast majority by their ignorance and refusal to act allow evil to go unchecked. People in this country have a real issue with history in that they refuse to engage with it. Look at the revisionism that has sunk so far into people's consciousness that ex pats and other irrelevant one note racist nobodies become the most prominent voice in the conversation. Their own backward fantasies are projected as if they were some kind of substitute for facts, history and real life lived experience.
    Haven't you posted your own Cultural Marxist manifesto a few times here? I thought that's how you referred to yourself? It's irrelevant to me whether you are or not, likewise if you're a proud SJW.

    You reject "mob?" Is "side" more appropriate? You can't deny your "side" see themselves as the heroes in this palaver? Nor deny you enjoy the mayhem? I see good and bad in both "sides." Does that make me ignorant? Probably. Especially to the extremes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

    I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

    My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.
    Again you are just resorting to the very same polarised sensationalist rubbish you believe you are better than. You sound like El Kabong calling anything he has no comprehension of 'communist'.

    I am not a 'Cultural Marxist' just because people invoking the most intolerant stupid political correctness use it as a bed wetting excuse to run away from complexity.

    And I am not part of a mob, quite the opposite. You can't have it both ways. Part of being what you and 'your mob' call being an SJW etc is being a proponent of diversity, and that includes diversity of thought and opinion.

    The uncomfortable truth is that often the vast majority by their ignorance and refusal to act allow evil to go unchecked. People in this country have a real issue with history in that they refuse to engage with it. Look at the revisionism that has sunk so far into people's consciousness that ex pats and other irrelevant one note racist nobodies become the most prominent voice in the conversation. Their own backward fantasies are projected as if they were some kind of substitute for facts, history and real life lived experience.
    Haven't you posted your own Cultural Marxist manifesto a few times here? I thought that's how you referred to yourself? It's irrelevant to me whether you are or not, likewise if you're a proud SJW.

    You reject "mob?" Is "side" more appropriate? You can't deny your "side" see themselves as the heroes in this palaver? Nor deny you enjoy the mayhem? I see good and bad in both "sides." Does that make me ignorant? Probably. Especially to the extremes.

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    No. Quite the opposite. An explanation of why the censorious alt-right use it to not only shut down debate but to hide their own antisemitism and demonize anyone who believed education is a good thing. I am not part of some homogenized organized group of thugs, unlike quite a few who post here. I do not speak for 'them' or 'we'. A lot of the establishment and media would like you to think that and no i do not enjoy the mayhem. I am too old for fighting or knocking a few racist heads together, and can quite clearly see the good and bad in both sides, which is evidenced quite clearly not only in my actions, but in easy to find documentary evidence.

    I do not think you are ignorant at all. We just have different viewpoints and opinions on things informed by different life experiences.

    It is a somewhat meandering 15min read in full, and i will send you the link, but for the sake of brevity, forgive me the indulgence of quoting myself , here is the conclusion of something i wrote about Cultural Marxism -



    So successful has the cult of Cultural Marxism as bogeyman been, that words like progressive are framed as ciphers for debauchery, great serious works of art like Picasso’s antifascist masterpiece ‘Guernica’ are dismissed as being communist, post modern rubbish, by people who do not even realise that Marxists themselves denounced it. The subscribers to the great Cultural Marxism conspiracy are recreating history, so that things like Neo-Nazis are refereed to as illusions, and women choosing to wear make up at work are simply asking to be sexually harassed. Protest is re-framed as both anarchy and conformity, and the idea of questioning anything is presented as a invitation to encourage moral and societal collapse.The supreme irony with a slogan like ‘cultural Marxism is taking over the world’ , is that in it’s original form, it critiques exactly what those who supposedly subscribe to Cultural Marxism are doing themselves. They are passively consuming the propaganda of a capitalist cultural industry. That is not conservatism, tradition or a return to the values of the enlightenment, it is an argument against progression and for regression.As Nietzsche warnedWhoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”Those who subscribe to the Marxenstein cultural Marxist bogeyman theory, would do well to remember this, but it is also a fitting reminder for those of us often accused of being ‘Cultural Marxists’.It is relevant because the cynicism that is the abyss today, can easily swallow up the participants on both sides of the debate. In an effort to get to the bottom of why people think like they do, it may be much easier to pretend that your opponent is some monstrous, inhuman compassionless foe, but do so and you risk becoming an artless lumbering thug yourself.
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