Hooray, a thread actually about boxing
1. Grace under pressure. When you watch someone under the greatest physical threat and they can rise above it and be cool and calculated. Never losing the technique. Ali against Foreman. Or just about against anyone to be fair. Archie Moore. You never saw Joe Louis waste a punch. Ray Leonard.
2. Control. Making the other guy fight your fight on your terms. Dictating tempo, distance, space and time. Duran. Early Tyson. Pacquiaio. Hagler. De la Hoya was good at this, this is what separates the elite from the rest.
3. Splattering some motherfucker. Again, Tyson. Nigel Benn, Golovkin, Marciano, Dempsey, The Hit Man. Elemental and beautiful in its controlled savagery. Each supposedly random wild swing being the result of thousands of hours of practice
If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?
When I was a child there was a man who was in charge of a group of us fidgeting children after church and he was good because he had a library of fights and it got our attention with Sugar Ray Robinson, Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Louis. Rocky Marciano and Henry Hank Armstrong and to this day I wondered how many arms he had. The pocorn soda, ice cream and cake spoiled dinner for all of us every Sunday after church. I learned to box at thitirteen and never got serious until I was fifteen after seeking revenge to have a fight with an opponent that never materialized. The third reason was I was always in front of the TV on Saturday afternoon continuing the tradition of those church basement showings and I remembered that movie projector smoking three hours later and I sat on my livingroom floor with my pup and two plates of chips and a beer for me and one for my pup. One thing I forgot to mention was that when I took an active part in boxing for a short while, I found the event to not be as exciting and fulfilling as the effort to prepare. Three reasons are not enough to love boxing as a spectator and I am going to continue to salute. any man with the courage to build himself up in friendly com bat and remember it is a contest.
As a kid it was just something that drew me in more than other sports. Football was okay, but it didn't have that genuinely unpredictable element of 2 men in close proximity trying to hit one another and avoid punches too. That proximity brings with it an intensity that no other sport can. I was enthralled by those domestic fights as a kid and Benn and Eubank and Watson and old Bruno there were all exciting to me.
Memphis does bring up death, but I cannot say that the prospect of death ever drew me to someone like Calzaghe who I enjoy above all other fighters with Toney up there of course, who likewise was not really a murderous puncher, especially later on. For me, watching that it was more about artistry and body fluidity, seeing those combinations and seeing punches from such unorthodox angles. It was impressive to see Calzaghe use that ballet like fluidity to make his opponents look silly at times. Or Toney make his opponent miss and then swiftly counter. The sweet shot.
The death aspect is certainly there and maybe some enjoy that and I do have a reputation for not enjoying early stoppages when I think the fighter has a chance, but I don't really enjoy that side. I will never forget poor Ricky Hatton out cold like that almost in a coma. That side is horrible, but then if it is Manny out cold do I get the satisfaction? I would prefer a stoppage that did not result in being unconscious. However, we do get into the moment and if your fighter is down then a dramatic KO is what you are hoping for.
It is a very brutal sport at times and it wouldn't be the same without the drama and the risk. Humanity can claim to want utopia and perfection, but with boxing around, we are always reminded of our darkness.
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I couldn't see that live but remember listening on the radio and it sounded like he was doing so well. I watched it on You Tube and think the same. Bruno on his day was good, I think he would have a good shot if his time was today. If he lands hard on any of them it is tough and I am not sure Fury could hurt him. Bruno would be more likely to get hurt against a Joshua or Wilder, but he could well get there first too. He could box well when he wanted to. A very good jab.
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