plan to confront Black Lives Matter protesters in London next Saturday

**Gandalf** · 06-13-2020 10:06 PM

"Met him, shook his hand and welcomed him to Plymouth On Friday before shooting his portrait and covering the event he came down for. Packed out the Guildhall, which doesn't happen often, and he stayed for a long time afterwards despite his PA advising him his train was leaving for the next stop. Very approachable and had time for everyone without any of the nonsense that other politicians pretend is meaningful dialogue. Answered rather than avoided the hard questions (If you get in and retire the nuclear fleet and we stop servicing the subs in Devonport Plymouth dockyard,what will happen to those many jobs? etc). If he becomes head of the Labour Party, membership will increase exponentially, and it may well fracture, but at least it will stand for something." - Beanz 2015

Yet you couldn't vote Labour in 2017, but felt a need to show you voted Green in 2015? Why?

**Gandalf** · 06-13-2020 10:19 PM

"Corbyn does not have an Open border policy and you are swallowing this whole austerity bullshit in order to excuse yourself not supporting Corbyn. He is talking about investing in infastructure, education and building council houses something long overdue in this country and likely to swell not empty the coffers.Do you want the NHS to be sold off to the same private American companies responsible for all those dead claimants they said were fit for work? Do you want the massive corporations paying no tax to be given even more of a free ride and the power to shape public policies in their favour? Do you want workers rights to be further eroded and Zero hours contracts extended into all areas of work? Do you want public sector pay cuts to increase and to take away free school meals form those who need them? Do you want those caring for disabled and often terminal family members to be paid less than those on the dole for round the clock 24/7 care every day and night of their lives? Do you want huge companies to be able to continue defaulting payments to their suppliers driving small business into bankruptcy while they rake in huge profits? Because the Tories do and if you think that Corbyn is bland and uninteresting then you will be helping them stay there if you are not going to vote against them.

Today the Labour party demonstrated true leadership in guaranteeing European working residents here the right to remain if they are voted in. This will give the EU no option other than keeping those same rights for British workers and residents in the EU. Science, business, education is very reliant on these workers and it would be churlish and decidedly childish and unpatriotic to use British citizens as pawns in some negotiation game as May is suggesting. Corbyn and the Labour party have said they will go ahead with Brexit but in a responsible manner rather than ditching all the environmental and workers safeguards in place like the Tories are going to do.

I would like to have stayed in Europe but it seems that many who voted for Brexit have had another agenda all along and nothing the Labour party does will convince those who want the UK to return to the 1960's or even before. That time has gone and hopefully the young will stick two fingers up to the old way of doing things and change Britain for the better. It cannot carry on like it is." - Beanz 2017.

Are you sure you have not voted for the same party twice? I mean, cool you were Greeny in 2015, but seemed friends with the bloke in 2015 and by 2017 you were gushing.

Why did you not vote for him then?

**NoSavingByTheBell** · 06-12-2020 11:44 PM

but everyting these days is all or nothing. Trump supporters are all or nothing, like totally. Kamala Harris supporters, Brian Stelter fans are all or nothing, Mark Dice fams are all or nothing, its everywhere. Try telling a Trump supporter to get worked up over wrongs against blacks, aint gonna happen. Try telling a far left Democrat to get worked up over the military equipment just made for $880 billion. Aint gonna happen. etc etc

Its polarization city. On steroids. People are getting punched out here for either wearing or not wearing a mask, depending on where.... punched out.....cold cocked....FOR EITHER WEARING OR NOT WEARING A MASK.

There's gonna be crossover between Beanz's views and Labour. Crossover between Lyle and Infowars (he'll never admit it LOL). Crossover between my and your perspectives. You can find a crossover between Beijing and Washington DC if you do a quick search. Everything is blurred. Polarized. Insane. Fight to the death.

It's nuts.

NO thank you. Everybody is right and everybody is wrong (barring Hitler and pure evil like that of course). Always was, always will be.

**Gandalf** · 06-12-2020 11:57 PM

I deleted my post as I was unhappy with my phone typing so your context is missing. I was going to redo it on a computer. As you know I am not all of nothing on Trump and will of course cede flaws in some of the people I am into as most people have strengths and weaknesses alike.

Does Beanz make endless posts criticizing the Labour Party? No. Does he make endless posts criticizing Trump who is a million miles away? Or the Tories? Yes.

A diehard ideologue. The majority of the public can see how bad Labour is and that is why the Tories kerp winning. I will be the first to concede that the Tories are very weak on many issues.