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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Are we not in agreement that US law prohibits discrimination against obtaining credit based on race and that for a number of decades black Americans have been taking on a variety of loan types?

    Can we not agree on that? I accept that there were issues affecting granny, but for Tyler, 45, it is a different rulebook.

    From the article:

    "The Minnesota Legislature prohibited the use of racial restrictions in warranty deeds in 1953. But covenants remained commonplace in much of the nation until 1968, when the Fair Housing Act made them explicitly illegal."


    1968 Miles.......... 1968.

    Maybe a lifetime ago to you..... but certainly recent enough to represent not decades, but CENTURIES of discrimination on something as important as home ownership.

    Now..... if you can't see how this is proof enough of the damage done to the black community over time, and the effect it still has on the proportions of home ownership in America......... I don't know what else to say to you.

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    I'm all for looking toward the future and not dwell on the past.

    Which is why I came out immediately and forcefully in the forum AGAINST reparations for slavery as a bad idea.

    But facts are facts.

    You can't just close your eyes and wave away a couple of centuries of racial discrimination which has kept the black race down..... while blaming black social issues on bad fathers and single mothers. It doesn't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I'm all for looking toward the future and not dwell on the past.

    Which is why I came out immediately and forcefully in the forum AGAINST reparations for slavery as a bad idea.

    But facts are facts.

    You can't just close your eyes and wave away a couple of centuries of racial discrimination which has kept the black race down..... while blaming black social issues on bad fathers and single mothers. It doesn't work that way.
    Black families were stronger 50 years ago. The decay has been since the welfare state which has eroded personal responsibility. The problems today are the result of poor decisions by spoiled people who know freebies are there without needing responsibility. That automatically creates poverty? How do I know? I have been there too. Many whites have the same issues which have compounded over the same period.

    Rather than teach hatred of others for one's own failings one needs to accept that things have gone wrong and to be better people. Is the UK historically like the US? No, so why are there the same issues with broken families and thug culture? Welfare state and broken down family structures among other factors.

    Self responsibility will go a long way. Maybe give youths some Peterson and start a journey of personal growth rather than develop a permanent chip on the shoulder about ancestors one never knew and a society that is better than most?

    The law offers equality, so use it and give life a go. Don't copy the parents if bad, copy if good and go from there. This mindset of chaos and 'Ooh racist' will lead to nowhere good. You know better than that too.

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    Default Re: Anthony Joshuas racist comments

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Are we not in agreement that US law prohibits discrimination against obtaining credit based on race and that for a number of decades black Americans have been taking on a variety of loan types?

    Can we not agree on that? I accept that there were issues affecting granny, but for Tyler, 45, it is a different rulebook.

    From the article:

    "The Minnesota Legislature prohibited the use of racial restrictions in warranty deeds in 1953. But covenants remained commonplace in much of the nation until 1968, when the Fair Housing Act made them explicitly illegal."


    1968 Miles.......... 1968.

    Maybe a lifetime ago to you..... but certainly recent enough to represent not decades, but CENTURIES of discrimination on something as important as home ownership.

    Now..... if you can't see how this is proof enough of the damage done to the black community over time, and the effect it still has on the proportions of home ownership in America......... I don't know what else to say to you.
    How does that affect Tyler, 45? Did he not get a loan for his car? Or a bad mortgage? 50 years Tito. Goodness me, and why am I racist for stating that blacks can, do and have been getting mortgages and loans for a long time now? 🤔

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