Maurice Gordon, Schizophrenic, EXECUTED JUNE 8, 2020 by NJ State Trooper

[TitoFan]

Alrighty then.

Let's take stock of where we all stand.

I'm not gonna start another thread on this, although I could.

In quick succession, we have:

1. Rayshard Brooks, shot in the back and killed by a white cop in Atlanta as he tried to run away.
2. Maurice Gordon, shot and killed during a scuffle on a New Jersey freeway after getting pulled over.


Here is where I stand, because I like to make things clear up front..........

1. Excessive deadly force... unwarranted shooting and killing. The cop should be brought up on charges, not to mention getting the hell thrown out of the police force.
2. Gordon should have been tased instead.... but he grappled with the cop after multiple instructions to sit and stay in the car. Gordon should be reprimanded for the use of lethal force, but no further.


As I understand it, NoSaving feels it was murder in both counts......... and Kabong feels the deaths were warranted in both counts.

At the risk of oversimplifying things, does this cover it accurately enough?

Shit..... maybe I will start a poll on this.

[TitoFan]

The officer with Gordon should have arrested him LONG AGO. That was long overdue.

[TitoFan]

If we're going to DEMAND reform with the police, we should also educate the public to NOT RESIST ARREST AND COOPERATE WITH THE POLICE.

How difficult can this be? It's not rocket science. You do not resist arrest... you increase your chances on not getting killed.

[TitoFan]

On the other hand, the cop that shot Brooks in the back should be thrown in jail immediately. Do not pass GO..... do not collect $200.

NOWHERE does it say a cop can shoot a suspect in the back as he's running away. NOWHERE.

[TitoFan]

Brooks turned and pointed a deadly weapon at the cop?? C'mon..... let's keep our stories straight here.

He turned and pointed a glow-in-the-dark taser at a cop (BTW... in the video this turning and pointing is not visible... maybe it was lightning quick ).

The cop, "FEARFUL FOR HIS LIFE" shot Brooks in the back.

2nd degree manslaughter for the guy.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Brooks turned and pointed a deadly weapon at the cop?? C'mon..... let's keep our stories straight here.

He turned and pointed a glow-in-the-dark taser at a cop (BTW... in the video this turning and pointing is not visible... maybe it was lightning quick ).

The cop, "FEARFUL FOR HIS LIFE" shot Brooks in the back.

2nd degree manslaughter for the guy.

that's what I said in the first place. It was a glow-in-the-dark taser with a light at the end and he should not have been executed. That's what I said in the first place. What I mentioned above was I can see the police saying that the Atlantic case is more cut-and-dry since there was a weapon aimed and the police officer could claim that it appeared to be a deadly weapon. That is what Lyle said. Lyle said it was a deadly weapon and I disagreed with Lyle and said no it was just a glow-in-the-dark taser.

what I just said a few posts above this was that the police could say they could try to make a case that the Atlanta one was more clear-cut since there was something being aimed which could have been taken as a weapon. I personally do not agree with that point of view but I am saying that I can see how some people would say that we'll try to make that argument

[TitoFan]

Brooks turned and pointed a deadly weapon at the cop?? C'mon..... let's keep our stories straight here.

He turned and pointed a glow-in-the-dark taser at a cop (BTW... in the video this turning and pointing is not visible... maybe it was lightning quick ).

The cop, "FEARFUL FOR HIS LIFE" shot Brooks in the back.

2nd degree manslaughter for the guy.

that's what I said in the first place. It was a glow-in-the-dark taser with a light at the end and he should not have been executed. That's what I said in the first place. What I mentioned above was I can see the police saying that the Atlantic case is more cut-and-dry since there was a weapon aimed and the police officer could claim that it appeared to be a deadly weapon. That is what Lyle said. Lyle said it was a deadly weapon and I disagreed with Lyle and said no it was just a glow-in-the-dark taser.

what I just said a few posts above this was that the police could say they could try to make a case that the Atlanta one was more clear-cut since there was something being aimed which could have been taken as a weapon. I personally do not agree with that point of view but I am saying that I can see how some people would say that we'll try to make that argument

Sadly, after months of technicalities and legal posturing..... that'll be exactly what the defense will manage to impress upon the jury..... and the cop will walk. Rinse and repeat.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

and also what I meant by that Tito is that the Jamaican guy was not arrested and was not detained and was just sitting in the back of the car waiting for a tow truck. He was totally innocent. So for me it is even more wrong that he was executed if we have to pick one which is more wrong I would choose the Jamaican as being more wrongfully executed. Again I am saying if I have to pick one. In actuality I don't have to pick one because they were both wrongfully executed in my opinion

[NoSavingByTheBell]

the Cub had to know that it was a taser as I told Lyle in another thread because the man grabbed the taser right out of her hand so of course she knew it was her very own taser with a light blinking on the end of it I mean give me a break that is out-and-out execution.

the icing on the cake at Atlanta is that after he tries to fire the taser at the police officer he then turns around and continues to Sprint for one or two more steps and he was clearly shot in the back he was not shut while he was turned around me the taser but he was actually shot in the back after he turned back around to Sprint some more

that is what I get by watching it for a third time so therefore both of them are equally egregious executions

[TitoFan]

and also what I meant by that Tito is that the Jamaican guy was not arrested and was not detained and was just sitting in the back of the car waiting for a tow truck. He was totally innocent. So for me it is even more wrong that he was executed if we have to pick one which is more wrong I would choose the Jamaican as being more wrongfully executed. Again I am saying if I have to pick one. In actuality I don't have to pick one because they were both wrongfully executed in my opinion

We'll agree to disagree on that one, NoSaving. The Jamaican guy (IMO) practically BEGGED to be shot. "Walk this way sir" (away from oncoming traffic). The guy insists on going the other way. "Sit in the car." The guy repeatedly tries to bolt, even though the officer by this time was screaming at him to stay in the car. I'm sorry. I have very little sympathy for someone who stubbornly struggles against a guy with a badge and a gun.

[Denilson3.0]

A glimpse of how biased the police system really is as

This guy did worst and was not shot. Not even a gun came out for even a warning.

Or how about this white guy who killed 2 women & 1 child. Attacked officers while naked. Choked a church groundskeeper. But was detained alive.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c-ldYbHFXBk

This is what happens when a white man fights the police & then grabs the taser & then runs away & then attempts to steal the officer's car. What a surprise he lives.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Absolutely, and Ill say it again, if hundreds of BLACKS ARMED WITH SEMI AUTO WEAPONS STORMED INTO A CITY HALL OR A STATE GOVERNMENT BUILDING, there would have been major death, major major death against the blacks, cops and ATF wouldnt think twice, total carnage, but when some good ol Anglo Saxon boys with beards and american flags looking like THE BARBECUE PIT BOYS all hill-billied out with motorcycles and pickup trucks go in, hell no, no problems at all.