Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
Some perspective. There are not that many cases here or deaths. Why? I suspect because only those who have it are being diagnosed with it and because only those who actually died from it died. This is despite the average age being 77 and most with existing conditione. How can it be such a contrast? Then you listen to the nurse and it starts to add up.

Look at those US numbers. They don't make any sense. However, if you believe a nurse who has recorded evidence of what is happening in a medical facility, you start to put the dots together.

Always compare and contrast and try to work out why things are as they are. It means thinking outside the box sometimes. Few of those networks are respectable outlets. It is the same in the UK. The UK media trust ratings are in the gutter. So, forget them for a minute, think for yourself.

What do you think of someone having a panic attack being put on a ventilator and then dying because of it, Tito. Are you okay with his death reported as Covid 19?

I'm not ok with the "mis-characterization" of any death, Miles. I'm surprised (not really) that needed to be clarified.

Truth is... the medical field has done a less than stellar job (IMO) in finding the best (most effective) ways to treat COVID patients. To this day, there is still squabbling back and forth over the exact mechanisms through which COVID kills a person. Some point to the damage the virus does to the red blood cell capacity to transport oxygen. Others deny or refute that. If the former is the case, then mechanical respirators can actually do more harm than good, thus the high probability that some patients have been hurt rather than helped through the indiscriminate use of respirators.

The difference between you and me is that I do not use this information to jump to the conclusions that.....

a) COVID-19 is either fake, a hoax, just like the flu, or somehow not dangerous and should be summarily ignored.

b) People should just ignore all medical expert advice to use PPE and keep social distancing as much as possible.

c) I certainly do not applaud the (predictable) rebel element that invariably rises up to challenge anything that comes from figures of authority. That's TIC's game..... not mine.