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[Gandalf]

George Floyd has no idea what he started.

As is common shit gets so convoluted and out of hand what might have been an opportunity to get something done but everyone grabs a piece, adds some seasoning and puts it back out it only partially resembles the original thing do that enough and in the end everyone is just scratching their heads saying wtf. Then we can repeat it in 4-8 years depending on who is holding the cameras

Well... I'd like to be a little more optimistic. Sure there are always the outliers (those who say the killing was staged... those who say every white person on Earth is a white supremacist)... and sure there are the troublemakers (the rioters, etc)... and sure there are those who get misdirected and miss the point by a mile and a half (changing pancake syrup brands and the like).

But somewhere in there is the message that this time society in general isn't going to take this shit anymore. This time even more whites than blacks protested in some parts of the States. It's a show of unity, mostly by the younger generations, that this tired old bullshit needs to start being addressed. Toppling statues ain't gonna do it. Putting warnings on movies ain't gonna do it. Changing brand names ain't gonna do it. Not even the hand-wringing and lip service always done by the politicians and celebrities. This time it's gonna take some rolling up of the sleeves and working toward some REAL solutions.

What kinds of solutions would you suggest? Isn't the solution to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences? What are your demands?

[TitoFan]

George Floyd has no idea what he started.

As is common shit gets so convoluted and out of hand what might have been an opportunity to get something done but everyone grabs a piece, adds some seasoning and puts it back out it only partially resembles the original thing do that enough and in the end everyone is just scratching their heads saying wtf. Then we can repeat it in 4-8 years depending on who is holding the cameras

Well... I'd like to be a little more optimistic. Sure there are always the outliers (those who say the killing was staged... those who say every white person on Earth is a white supremacist)... and sure there are the troublemakers (the rioters, etc)... and sure there are those who get misdirected and miss the point by a mile and a half (changing pancake syrup brands and the like).

But somewhere in there is the message that this time society in general isn't going to take this shit anymore. This time even more whites than blacks protested in some parts of the States. It's a show of unity, mostly by the younger generations, that this tired old bullshit needs to start being addressed. Toppling statues ain't gonna do it. Putting warnings on movies ain't gonna do it. Changing brand names ain't gonna do it. Not even the hand-wringing and lip service always done by the politicians and celebrities. This time it's gonna take some rolling up of the sleeves and working toward some REAL solutions.

What kinds of solutions would you suggest? Isn't the solution to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences? What are your demands?

"Demands"? Just the way you ask the question speaks volumes. I have no demands, Miles... as I'm not an active player on that scene. Nor do I have any political power.

But if you think "the solution is to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences"....... if you think that is the solution to the entire problem of police abuse of power, racial profiling, and blatant racism across police forces in the U.S....... then there's not much I can say and I'd say our job here is done.

[Gandalf]

George Floyd has no idea what he started.

As is common shit gets so convoluted and out of hand what might have been an opportunity to get something done but everyone grabs a piece, adds some seasoning and puts it back out it only partially resembles the original thing do that enough and in the end everyone is just scratching their heads saying wtf. Then we can repeat it in 4-8 years depending on who is holding the cameras

Well... I'd like to be a little more optimistic. Sure there are always the outliers (those who say the killing was staged... those who say every white person on Earth is a white supremacist)... and sure there are the troublemakers (the rioters, etc)... and sure there are those who get misdirected and miss the point by a mile and a half (changing pancake syrup brands and the like).

But somewhere in there is the message that this time society in general isn't going to take this shit anymore. This time even more whites than blacks protested in some parts of the States. It's a show of unity, mostly by the younger generations, that this tired old bullshit needs to start being addressed. Toppling statues ain't gonna do it. Putting warnings on movies ain't gonna do it. Changing brand names ain't gonna do it. Not even the hand-wringing and lip service always done by the politicians and celebrities. This time it's gonna take some rolling up of the sleeves and working toward some REAL solutions.

What kinds of solutions would you suggest? Isn't the solution to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences? What are your demands?

"Demands"? Just the way you ask the question speaks volumes. I have no demands, Miles... as I'm not an active player on that scene. Nor do I have any political power.

But if you think "the solution is to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences"....... if you think that is the solution to the entire problem of police abuse of power, racial profiling, and blatant racism across police forces in the U.S....... then there's not much I can say and I'd say our job here is done.

Does it speak volumes? In what way? Maybe I am not reading it like you do. I mean BLM have demands, Antifa have demands and I think they are incredibly unreasonable demands, so I was just curious about what you wanted from this. Likewise, I am not that active politically nor have political power, but it is not my country and maybe something you could comment on more is Puerto Rico. I know it is technically part of America, but I, and probably many people, consider it a bit different. How is it there with the police? Are black crime rates much higher so the police have to do more? Are they even armed there? I am genuinely interested.

That has really been my main thing with all this. I am not actually commenting on America as much as I am the UK which I think has NO grounds to be toppling anything considering the police carry sticks and the data shows that there is really not an issue there. Thus I do think groups are being funded and are using it as an excuse to push an ideological agenda that I think most people are frankly against and that is Cultural Marxism. The system in many ways is dominated by this now, but I don't think society at large agrees with it.

I don't want the police to kill anyone. However, in a more violent and armed society like America people will die and if it is full of drugs then people will destroy their hearts and die. And on it goes. I wish it wasn't the case and that people could clean up and avoid trouble with the police, but what can I do beyond encourage self responsibility? Nothing.

Tito, we also have to accept that 13% of the populace is carrying out something like 56% of the violent crime. Until that community can display more agency, then the police have no alternative, but to keep close watch on what is happening. Look at cities like Chicago, it is horrible. Surely people want to improve their lives and it starts by not joining the thug life and by being a better person. Thug life is promoted and looked at as being cool and 'fuck tha police' and all of that, but that is not exactly helpful, is it?

I would like to see things improve, but it works both ways for me. Deal with the bad apple cops and encourage fellow officers to get them out and in turn society at large needs to raise its standards a bit....no a lot. I can only speak from experience but even the UK is a lot more violent than here and there are good reasons for that. Not many issues with the police, but then society generally doesn't give them a reason to have a problem.

We can learn from other systems, in my view as some cultures do indeed do things better than others. That is my take on it all. America has its problems for sure.

[TitoFan]

George Floyd has no idea what he started.

As is common shit gets so convoluted and out of hand what might have been an opportunity to get something done but everyone grabs a piece, adds some seasoning and puts it back out it only partially resembles the original thing do that enough and in the end everyone is just scratching their heads saying wtf. Then we can repeat it in 4-8 years depending on who is holding the cameras

Well... I'd like to be a little more optimistic. Sure there are always the outliers (those who say the killing was staged... those who say every white person on Earth is a white supremacist)... and sure there are the troublemakers (the rioters, etc)... and sure there are those who get misdirected and miss the point by a mile and a half (changing pancake syrup brands and the like).

But somewhere in there is the message that this time society in general isn't going to take this shit anymore. This time even more whites than blacks protested in some parts of the States. It's a show of unity, mostly by the younger generations, that this tired old bullshit needs to start being addressed. Toppling statues ain't gonna do it. Putting warnings on movies ain't gonna do it. Changing brand names ain't gonna do it. Not even the hand-wringing and lip service always done by the politicians and celebrities. This time it's gonna take some rolling up of the sleeves and working toward some REAL solutions.

What kinds of solutions would you suggest? Isn't the solution to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences? What are your demands?

"Demands"? Just the way you ask the question speaks volumes. I have no demands, Miles... as I'm not an active player on that scene. Nor do I have any political power.

But if you think "the solution is to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences"....... if you think that is the solution to the entire problem of police abuse of power, racial profiling, and blatant racism across police forces in the U.S....... then there's not much I can say and I'd say our job here is done.

Does it speak volumes? In what way? Maybe I am not reading it like you do. I mean BLM have demands, Antifa have demands and I think they are incredibly unreasonable demands, so I was just curious about what you wanted from this.

Why do you stop at BLM and Antifa? Why do you not include all other organizations with racial agendas? These are the comments that speak more about your mindset than any amount of words could ever do. Why call out only those who seek equality on a racial basis?

Likewise, I am not that active politically nor have political power, but it is not my country and maybe something you could comment on more is Puerto Rico. I know it is technically part of America, but I, and probably many people, consider it a bit different. How is it there with the police? Are black crime rates much higher so the police have to do more? Are they even armed there? I am genuinely interested.

Luckily the atmosphere here is much different than in many parts of the States, from a racial standpoint. Crime rates are easier categorized by urban vs rural... by demographics... by other factors other than race. Puerto Ricans by nature are a mixture of different races, including black, Spaniard, other European countries, the U.S., and Caribbean indigenous people. The mixture varies greatly from person to person... so there is also a wide variety of skin tones and features. Are the police armed? Sure. It's just a different vibe. Here, it's not so much hate crimes... but crimes for other purposes. Could be drug-related, crimes of passion... or good old fashioned robberies.

That has really been my main thing with all this. I am not actually commenting on America as much as I am the UK which I think has NO grounds to be toppling anything considering the police carry sticks and the data shows that there is really not an issue there. Thus I do think groups are being funded and are using it as an excuse to push an ideological agenda that I think most people are frankly against and that is Cultural Marxism. The system in many ways is dominated by this now, but I don't think society at large agrees with it.

Glad to see you admit and realize that you cannot very well speak for the situation in the U.S. with too much certainty, because it's a different culture and situation from the UK. I take it that racism is racism and exists in all countries... but how the police interact with blacks in the U.S. is probably very different with how they interact in the UK.

I don't want the police to kill anyone. However, in a more violent and armed society like America people will die and if it is full of drugs then people will destroy their hearts and die. And on it goes. I wish it wasn't the case and that people could clean up and avoid trouble with the police, but what can I do beyond encourage self responsibility? Nothing.



Tito, we also have to accept that 13% of the populace is carrying out something like 56% of the violent crime. Until that community can display more agency, then the police have no alternative, but to keep close watch on what is happening. Look at cities like Chicago, it is horrible. Surely people want to improve their lives and it starts by not joining the thug life and by being a better person. Thug life is promoted and looked at as being cool and 'fuck tha police' and all of that, but that is not exactly helpful, is it?

Yes Miles. You have the data and I'm not disputing that. What I'm saying is that it's not as simple as saying "don't join the thug life" or "don't be an absent father or single mother." As with any situation, you have dig deeper and find the reasons why this is more prevalent among inner city blacks. It's not BECAUSE they're black, if you catch the nuance there. It's because some societal conditions that have persisted for centuries have marginalized and put blacks into economic and educational situations from which it is harder to recover from than just saying "don't join the thug life." If you've been faced with real estate laws into the 1950's that allow not selling homes in specific neighborhoods to blacks.... it's tough to escape the slums and see your children educated in good schools. If you're forced into segregated neighborhoods and your neighborhood public schools get 1/20th the funding of public schools in ritzy white neighborhoods.... it's tough to produce kids with those high IQ's you glorify so much. That is why when tests are administered, it gives fools like Rushton the opportunity to claim genetic inferiority for blacks, thus perpetuating the racism that so many people hang on to.

I would like to see things improve, but it works both ways for me. Deal with the bad apple cops and encourage fellow officers to get them out and in turn society at large needs to raise its standards a bit....no a lot. I can only speak from experience but even the UK is a lot more violent than here and there are good reasons for that. Not many issues with the police, but then society generally doesn't give them a reason to have a problem.

I've seen with my own eyes the presence, even now in the 21st century, of people in certain sectors of the U.S. (it might be scattered pockets... but they're there) who by just opening their mouths will transport you back to the 1800's and the days of slavery. They have nothing but contempt for blacks.... idolize the days of slavery.... and many times when you look at the persons themselves..... they're nothing but ignorant, inferior human beings themselves. Ironic for a country whose ENTIRE population can trace its roots to some type of immigration in the past.

We can learn from other systems, in my view as some cultures do indeed do things better than others. That is my take on it all. America has its problems for sure.

This is a deep and complex issue, and will not be easily resolved. As I've said, I'm totally against the idea of reparations for slavery..... but I do think it's high time for some institutionalized solutions to begin to bridge the gap of racial economic and educational disparities in the U.S. Window-dressing measures are not gonna cut it.

[Gandalf]

George Floyd has no idea what he started.

As is common shit gets so convoluted and out of hand what might have been an opportunity to get something done but everyone grabs a piece, adds some seasoning and puts it back out it only partially resembles the original thing do that enough and in the end everyone is just scratching their heads saying wtf. Then we can repeat it in 4-8 years depending on who is holding the cameras

Well... I'd like to be a little more optimistic. Sure there are always the outliers (those who say the killing was staged... those who say every white person on Earth is a white supremacist)... and sure there are the troublemakers (the rioters, etc)... and sure there are those who get misdirected and miss the point by a mile and a half (changing pancake syrup brands and the like).

But somewhere in there is the message that this time society in general isn't going to take this shit anymore. This time even more whites than blacks protested in some parts of the States. It's a show of unity, mostly by the younger generations, that this tired old bullshit needs to start being addressed. Toppling statues ain't gonna do it. Putting warnings on movies ain't gonna do it. Changing brand names ain't gonna do it. Not even the hand-wringing and lip service always done by the politicians and celebrities. This time it's gonna take some rolling up of the sleeves and working toward some REAL solutions.

What kinds of solutions would you suggest? Isn't the solution to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences? What are your demands?

"Demands"? Just the way you ask the question speaks volumes. I have no demands, Miles... as I'm not an active player on that scene. Nor do I have any political power.

But if you think "the solution is to put the officer on trial and him face the consequences"....... if you think that is the solution to the entire problem of police abuse of power, racial profiling, and blatant racism across police forces in the U.S....... then there's not much I can say and I'd say our job here is done.

Does it speak volumes? In what way? Maybe I am not reading it like you do. I mean BLM have demands, Antifa have demands and I think they are incredibly unreasonable demands, so I was just curious about what you wanted from this.

Why do you stop at BLM and Antifa? Why do you not include all other organizations with racial agendas? These are the comments that speak more about your mindset than any amount of words could ever do. Why call out only those who seek equality on a racial basis?

Likewise, I am not that active politically nor have political power, but it is not my country and maybe something you could comment on more is Puerto Rico. I know it is technically part of America, but I, and probably many people, consider it a bit different. How is it there with the police? Are black crime rates much higher so the police have to do more? Are they even armed there? I am genuinely interested.

Luckily the atmosphere here is much different than in many parts of the States, from a racial standpoint. Crime rates are easier categorized by urban vs rural... by demographics... by other factors other than race. Puerto Ricans by nature are a mixture of different races, including black, Spaniard, other European countries, the U.S., and Caribbean indigenous people. The mixture varies greatly from person to person... so there is also a wide variety of skin tones and features. Are the police armed? Sure. It's just a different vibe. Here, it's not so much hate crimes... but crimes for other purposes. Could be drug-related, crimes of passion... or good old fashioned robberies.

That has really been my main thing with all this. I am not actually commenting on America as much as I am the UK which I think has NO grounds to be toppling anything considering the police carry sticks and the data shows that there is really not an issue there. Thus I do think groups are being funded and are using it as an excuse to push an ideological agenda that I think most people are frankly against and that is Cultural Marxism. The system in many ways is dominated by this now, but I don't think society at large agrees with it.

Glad to see you admit and realize that you cannot very well speak for the situation in the U.S. with too much certainty, because it's a different culture and situation from the UK. I take it that racism is racism and exists in all countries... but how the police interact with blacks in the U.S. is probably very different with how they interact in the UK.

I don't want the police to kill anyone. However, in a more violent and armed society like America people will die and if it is full of drugs then people will destroy their hearts and die. And on it goes. I wish it wasn't the case and that people could clean up and avoid trouble with the police, but what can I do beyond encourage self responsibility? Nothing.



Tito, we also have to accept that 13% of the populace is carrying out something like 56% of the violent crime. Until that community can display more agency, then the police have no alternative, but to keep close watch on what is happening. Look at cities like Chicago, it is horrible. Surely people want to improve their lives and it starts by not joining the thug life and by being a better person. Thug life is promoted and looked at as being cool and 'fuck tha police' and all of that, but that is not exactly helpful, is it?

Yes Miles. You have the data and I'm not disputing that. What I'm saying is that it's not as simple as saying "don't join the thug life" or "don't be an absent father or single mother." As with any situation, you have dig deeper and find the reasons why this is more prevalent among inner city blacks. It's not BECAUSE they're black, if you catch the nuance there. It's because some societal conditions that have persisted for centuries have marginalized and put blacks into economic and educational situations from which it is harder to recover from than just saying "don't join the thug life." If you've been faced with real estate laws into the 1950's that allow not selling homes in specific neighborhoods to blacks.... it's tough to escape the slums and see your children educated in good schools. If you're forced into segregated neighborhoods and your neighborhood public schools get 1/20th the funding of public schools in ritzy white neighborhoods.... it's tough to produce kids with those high IQ's you glorify so much. That is why when tests are administered, it gives fools like Rushton the opportunity to claim genetic inferiority for blacks, thus perpetuating the racism that so many people hang on to.

I would like to see things improve, but it works both ways for me. Deal with the bad apple cops and encourage fellow officers to get them out and in turn society at large needs to raise its standards a bit....no a lot. I can only speak from experience but even the UK is a lot more violent than here and there are good reasons for that. Not many issues with the police, but then society generally doesn't give them a reason to have a problem.

I've seen with my own eyes the presence, even now in the 21st century, of people in certain sectors of the U.S. (it might be scattered pockets... but they're there) who by just opening their mouths will transport you back to the 1800's and the days of slavery. They have nothing but contempt for blacks.... idolize the days of slavery.... and many times when you look at the persons themselves..... they're nothing but ignorant, inferior human beings themselves. Ironic for a country whose ENTIRE population can trace its roots to some type of immigration in the past.

We can learn from other systems, in my view as some cultures do indeed do things better than others. That is my take on it all. America has its problems for sure.

This is a deep and complex issue, and will not be easily resolved. As I've said, I'm totally against the idea of reparations for slavery..... but I do think it's high time for some institutionalized solutions to begin to bridge the gap of racial economic and educational disparities in the U.S. Window-dressing measures are not gonna cut it.

I got timed out addressing your points, but will boil down to this. If 76% of the families are single parent families, then of course that means raising kids in poverty. That is a personal choice. The rate was 25% in the 1960's. Surely a bit of self agency will go a long way when it comes to addressing problems too. I don't think the Marxism of BLM is any solution and it does not address the individual behavior of people who do that to their own kids. I speak as someone who has been there and it is usually a self inflicted wound induced by bad decisions. With better decisions there are better outcomes.

[Spicoli]

You guys just need to watch more Fat Albert and learn to relax