Sky Race Warnings on movies

[Gandalf]

You know I just read my opening post again. So should you Beanz.

I said about the warnings then said ‘fair enough’ but to have a look at some on the list where this might lead withe other films. I then said that the Aliens one was baffling. And here we are.

When is Lenny Henry going to apologise for True Identity ?

I already reread it twice mate. I am not accusing you of saying everything is banned or being outraged. There are plenty of posters here though who are outraged by the very idea of anything changing at all.

This thread demonstrates that stubborn intransigence very clearly. There is a big problem with racism in the UK and the US and this forum reflects that.

A lot of it is this insistence by many that there is no problem. Flat out denial. Then there is whataboutery and the forum favourite

'False Equivalence'

Lenny Henry has spoken for years now about regrets of being used as a political football, worse because he was little more than a child. Being part of the Black and White minstrels, feeling compelled to make jokes parodying himself and his race because he felt he had to do that to be accepted is nothing like equivalent to him playing a character disguising himself to avoid the mob in a film.

True.

Is this a false equivalence? Will trigger warnings stop this?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...in-park-attack

[Beanz]

You know I just read my opening post again. So should you Beanz.

I said about the warnings then said ‘fair enough’ but to have a look at some on the list where this might lead withe other films. I then said that the Aliens one was baffling. And here we are.

When is Lenny Henry going to apologise for True Identity ?

I already reread it twice mate. I am not accusing you of saying everything is banned or being outraged. There are plenty of posters here though who are outraged by the very idea of anything changing at all.

This thread demonstrates that stubborn intransigence very clearly. There is a big problem with racism in the UK and the US and this forum reflects that.

A lot of it is this insistence by many that there is no problem. Flat out denial. Then there is whataboutery and the forum favourite

'False Equivalence'

Lenny Henry has spoken for years now about regrets of being used as a political football, worse because he was little more than a child. Being part of the Black and White minstrels, feeling compelled to make jokes parodying himself and his race because he felt he had to do that to be accepted is nothing like equivalent to him playing a character disguising himself to avoid the mob in a film.

True.

Is this a false equivalence? Will trigger warnings stop this?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...in-park-attack

Yes it is a good example of false equivalence and your seeming inability to act like an adult, get your own thoughts and room in order, or hide your own sick agenda driven insanity. There is simply no comparison with warning about portrayals of racism in films, however warranted or misguided, and a clearly mentally ill terrorist/criminal killing people as reported on by the very press you would without blinking lie and pretend never reported it.

False Equivalence.

You and El Kabong are among the most triggered people on the forum. It is an uncomfortable truth but you are like a pair of cats jumping in a frozen rigid trance of terror after seeing a cucumber. You do not even live in the UK or USA for fucks sake and yet your ability to be triggered is almost unrivaled.

[Mark TKO]

Seeing the length of some of these responses to make points make me glad I'm rarely 'triggered'

I prefer a simple "fuck you shit arse" or "when and where?"
Type response

[Spicoli]

Seeing the length of some of these responses to make points make me glad I'm rarely 'triggered'

I prefer a simple "fuck you shit arse" or "when and where?"
Type response

Pretty much this

[Gandalf]

You know I just read my opening post again. So should you Beanz.

I said about the warnings then said ‘fair enough’ but to have a look at some on the list where this might lead withe other films. I then said that the Aliens one was baffling. And here we are.

When is Lenny Henry going to apologise for True Identity ?

I already reread it twice mate. I am not accusing you of saying everything is banned or being outraged. There are plenty of posters here though who are outraged by the very idea of anything changing at all.

This thread demonstrates that stubborn intransigence very clearly. There is a big problem with racism in the UK and the US and this forum reflects that.

A lot of it is this insistence by many that there is no problem. Flat out denial. Then there is whataboutery and the forum favourite

'False Equivalence'

Lenny Henry has spoken for years now about regrets of being used as a political football, worse because he was little more than a child. Being part of the Black and White minstrels, feeling compelled to make jokes parodying himself and his race because he felt he had to do that to be accepted is nothing like equivalent to him playing a character disguising himself to avoid the mob in a film.

True.

Is this a false equivalence? Will trigger warnings stop this?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...in-park-attack

Yes it is a good example of false equivalence and your seeming inability to act like an adult, get your own thoughts and room in order, or hide your own sick agenda driven insanity. There is simply no comparison with warning about portrayals of racism in films, however warranted or misguided, and a clearly mentally ill terrorist/criminal killing people as reported on by the very press you would without blinking lie and pretend never reported it.

False Equivalence.

You and El Kabong are among the most triggered people on the forum. It is an uncomfortable truth but you are like a pair of cats jumping in a frozen rigid trance of terror after seeing a cucumber. You do not even live in the UK or USA for fucks sake and yet your ability to be triggered is almost unrivaled.

White people killed in England is not like Black people killed in America. I am glad we agree.

So why are you so into statues being toppled in the UK over crimes in America?

[Gandalf]

I am getting hip to it. Yeah, only 'Black Lives Matter'. Of course it is different whence the different response. 🤯

All Lives Matter.

[TitoFan]

The Ultimate Insult (in Saddo Land)


Guy #1: You're dumb.
Guy #2: Oh yeah? Well... you're stupid.

Guy #1: You're narrow-minded.
Guy #2: Oh yeah? Well... you're inflexible and inconsiderate.

Guy #1: You're naive.
Guy #2: Oh yeah? Well... you're deluded.

Guy #1: YDKSAB.
Guy #2: Oh yeah? Well... you know even less.

Guy #1: You're gay.
Guy #2: Oh yeah? Well... you're trans.

Guy #1: You're angry.
Guy #2: (gasp) Wha.. uhh.. well... (sob, sniffle) C'mon man... why did you have to go there?

[Memphis]

You mad bro?

[TitoFan]

[Beanz]

I am getting hip to it. Yeah, only 'Black Lives Matter'. Of course it is different whence the different response. ������

All Lives Matter.

Don't be so fallacious. You are using a both a strawman argument and a false dilemma to weasel out of tidying your room.

I have never claimed that ONLY Black Lives Matter or that All Lives DO NOT matter. That is just a very dumb strawman argument you can pretend is my position.Purely because i presume you cannot bring yourself to agree with the statement, and not that you only posses marginally more debating power than that present in Worzel Gummidges 'thinking head'.

You are presenting it as a false dilemma to hide your own blatant racism. There is nothing inherently dangerous or anti white in agreeing that Black Lives Matter.


It is the same false Dilemma that El Kabong presents when claiming that everything is fucked based on Sky putting a warning before a film. As though not agreeing with his very elastic and moveable goalposts as to what he claims is permissible and not, and declining to waste energy on something so trivial, means one is an enemy of art, or not a punk, or somehow a supporter of actual censorship. and that the result is the fall of Western Civilization.

You both know it isn't, but it is something you constantly argue for, with your primary school understanding of what you mistakenly think cultural Marxism is, trotted out as a way to shut down discussion and discredit anyone who is not as unquestioning and easily placated as you.

[Gandalf]

I am getting hip to it. Yeah, only 'Black Lives Matter'. Of course it is different whence the different response. ������

All Lives Matter.

Don't be so fallacious. You are using a both a strawman argument and a false dilemma to weasel out of tidying your room.

I have never claimed that ONLY Black Lives Matter or that All Lives DO NOT matter. That is just a very dumb strawman argument you can pretend is my position.Purely because i presume you cannot bring yourself to agree with the statement, and not that you only posses marginally more debating power than that present in Worzel Gummidges 'thinking head'.

You are presenting it as a false dilemma to hide your own blatant racism. There is nothing inherently dangerous or anti white in agreeing that Black Lives Matter.


It is the same false Dilemma that El Kabong presents when claiming that everything is fucked based on Sky putting a warning before a film. As though not agreeing with his very elastic and moveable goalposts as to what he claims is permissible and not, and declining to waste energy on something so trivial, means one is an enemy of art, or not a punk, or somehow a supporter of actual censorship. and that the result is the fall of Western Civilization.

You both know it isn't, but it is something you constantly argue for, with your primary school understanding of what you mistakenly think cultural Marxism is, trotted out as a way to shut down discussion and discredit anyone who is not as unquestioning and easily placated as you.

My point was actually one which you did not understand. You seldom understand. You brought up false equivalence, so I showed you murder and murder. Both ended up with people killed by people of others races. In my view murder is murder.

In the case of Floyd George there was no reason to be protesting in the UK.

In the case of the park multiple murders in the UK that was something that could justifiably be protested. It is not the first time that people have been killed by dangerous minorities who probably should not even be in the UK.

There was every reason to point out that this need not be happening just as 19,000 kids should not be raped by such groups either.

There has not been the same reaction. Murder in America gets far nore reaction than murder in the UK.

Why is that? I think we all know the answers when even 'White Lives Matter' can get someome investigated by the police and 'Black Lives Matter' has everyone kneeling.

You want to pretend the problem is everyone else. I have had discussions about these issues with people overseas. Normal people and every person is convinced there is something emotionally wrong with Britain. You are too far gone to even recognize the absurdity of BLM even being anything in the UK: 'the UK is a very racist country' you declare. As compared to what or where exactly?

You preach from a mostly white town where the biggest migrant community are the Chinese who of course keep quite a low profile.

Lest we forget of the protests, riots and statues it was as a mad man stated: 'Democracy in action'. No it wasn't. It was an irrational mob out of control. Be honest for once.

[Beanz]

Fuck you shit arse?

[Beanz]

You know I just read my opening post again. So should you Beanz.

I said about the warnings then said ‘fair enough’ but to have a look at some on the list where this might lead withe other films. I then said that the Aliens one was baffling. And here we are.

When is Lenny Henry going to apologise for True Identity ?

I already reread it twice mate. I am not accusing you of saying everything is banned or being outraged. There are plenty of posters here though who are outraged by the very idea of anything changing at all.

This thread demonstrates that stubborn intransigence very clearly. There is a big problem with racism in the UK and the US and this forum reflects that.

A lot of it is this insistence by many that there is no problem. Flat out denial. Then there is whataboutery and the forum favourite

'False Equivalence'

Lenny Henry has spoken for years now about regrets of being used as a political football, worse because he was little more than a child. Being part of the Black and White minstrels, feeling compelled to make jokes parodying himself and his race because he felt he had to do that to be accepted is nothing like equivalent to him playing a character disguising himself to avoid the mob in a film.

True.

Is this a false equivalence? Will trigger warnings stop this?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...in-park-attack

Yes it is a good example of false equivalence and your seeming inability to act like an adult, get your own thoughts and room in order, or hide your own sick agenda driven insanity. There is simply no comparison with warning about portrayals of racism in films, however warranted or misguided, and a clearly mentally ill terrorist/criminal killing people as reported on by the very press you would without blinking lie and pretend never reported it.

False Equivalence.

You and El Kabong are among the most triggered people on the forum. It is an uncomfortable truth but you are like a pair of cats jumping in a frozen rigid trance of terror after seeing a cucumber. You do not even live in the UK or USA for fucks sake and yet your ability to be triggered is almost unrivaled.

White people killed in England is not like Black people killed in America. I am glad we agree.

So why are you so into statues being toppled in the UK over crimes in America?

Who said i am so into statues being toppled? I am not an ideologue like yourself, though of course you would like me to be. The toppling of Colston was fantastic and long overdue, but that does not make every statue fair game, or even suggest that all those toppling it even knew why they were doing it. It made a very good point. It exposed the hypocrites like you who for so long have tried to pretend that Empire as all sunlit uplands and giving things like civilization to the world. If you think paying compensation to the descendants of slave owners in the House of Lords or kicking down doors and deporting Brits who have been here for 50+ years , and the deaths of Black Brits at the hands of your mates in the Neo Nazi far right etc had nothing to do with why the BLM demonstrations resonated with decent Brits here, then you are even more deluded than we all thought.

It is primarily about solidarity and empathy and a respect for very basic decent human values, like the respect for life. That is what makes you and El Kabong attitudes so objectionable, and quite honestly disgusting, to myself and i am sure many others. There are many i am sure who would not touch these forums with a barge pole because of how accepted such sick thinking is here.

This forum is a hostile environment.

Look at how furious and angry you both were with the idea of me working with refugees and migrants as though that made me a terrorist sympathizer. Look at how you both try and define who you even consider British despite neither of you living here. So of course you are not going to understand how when other people saw George Floyd being killed they were far more concerned and justifiably outraged with the manner and callousness of his death then what country he lived in or what country through accident of birth he was born in. To you such solidarity is an anathema, and so it is no surprise why you are perplexed by peoples genuine outrage when yours is saved for bullshit that does not really matter.

[walrus]

You know I just read my opening post again. So should you Beanz.

I said about the warnings then said ‘fair enough’ but to have a look at some on the list where this might lead withe other films. I then said that the Aliens one was baffling. And here we are.

When is Lenny Henry going to apologise for True Identity ?

I already reread it twice mate. I am not accusing you of saying everything is banned or being outraged. There are plenty of posters here though who are outraged by the very idea of anything changing at all.

This thread demonstrates that stubborn intransigence very clearly. There is a big problem with racism in the UK and the US and this forum reflects that.

A lot of it is this insistence by many that there is no problem. Flat out denial. Then there is whataboutery and the forum favourite

'False Equivalence'

Lenny Henry has spoken for years now about regrets of being used as a political football, worse because he was little more than a child. Being part of the Black and White minstrels, feeling compelled to make jokes parodying himself and his race because he felt he had to do that to be accepted is nothing like equivalent to him playing a character disguising himself to avoid the mob in a film.

True.

Is this a false equivalence? Will trigger warnings stop this?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...in-park-attack

Yes it is a good example of false equivalence and your seeming inability to act like an adult, get your own thoughts and room in order, or hide your own sick agenda driven insanity. There is simply no comparison with warning about portrayals of racism in films, however warranted or misguided, and a clearly mentally ill terrorist/criminal killing people as reported on by the very press you would without blinking lie and pretend never reported it.

False Equivalence.

You and El Kabong are among the most triggered people on the forum. It is an uncomfortable truth but you are like a pair of cats jumping in a frozen rigid trance of terror after seeing a cucumber. You do not even live in the UK or USA for fucks sake and yet your ability to be triggered is almost unrivaled.

White people killed in England is not like Black people killed in America. I am glad we agree.

So why are you so into statues being toppled in the UK over crimes in America?

Who said i am so into statues being toppled? I am not an ideologue like yourself, though of course you would like me to be. The toppling of Colston was fantastic and long overdue, but that does not make every statue fair game, or even suggest that all those toppling it even knew why they were doing it. It made a very good point. It exposed the hypocrites like you who for so long have tried to pretend that Empire as all sunlit uplands and giving things like civilization to the world. If you think paying compensation to the descendants of slave owners in the House of Lords or kicking down doors and deporting Brits who have been here for 50+ years , and the deaths of Black Brits at the hands of your mates in the Neo Nazi far right etc had nothing to do with why the BLM demonstrations resonated with decent Brits here, then you are even more deluded than we all thought.

It is primarily about solidarity and empathy and a respect for very basic decent human values, like the respect for life. That is what makes you and El Kabong attitudes so objectionable, and quite honestly disgusting, to myself and i am sure many others. There are many i am sure who would not touch these forums with a barge pole because of how accepted such sick thinking is here.

This forum is a hostile environment.

Look at how furious and angry you both were with the idea of me working with refugees and migrants as though that made me a terrorist sympathizer. Look at how you both try and define who you even consider British despite neither of you living here. So of course you are not going to understand how when other people saw George Floyd being killed they were far more concerned and justifiably outraged with the manner and callousness of his death then what country he lived in or what country through accident of birth he was born in. To you such solidarity is an anathema, and so it is no surprise why you are perplexed by peoples genuine outrage when yours is saved for bullshit that does not really matter.

Fuck me I work with refugees but I’m a Nazi. By the way when you group people together please include @TitoFan he gets very angry when he is left out. I like to use “you people” etc when quoting him but people like you or group or crew seems to satisfy him.