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    So I don’t know much about the case anymore as we have moved on to toppling the system. What is the link between dirty cop and George? Like has it been proven? A personal life link? Is the porn stuff true or is that possible conspiracy stuff. I’m trying to avoid too much of it, we have race and wuhan covered here all the time, my views aren’t that important plus everything has a hair trigger right now I don’t want to deal with people freaking out. It would just be fucked up if there is some motive this cop had which I’m hearing alluded to but I don’t know what’s true and what isn’t
    Cop may or may not have moonlighted as security at some club Floyd may or may not have also worked at. Or it was some of that free feeding 'fake news' via social media former club owner trying to get themselves a 'push'. An on duty killer cop is still an on killer duty cop though.
    Ya I’m not trying to say the murder was anything but just curious of the motivation. Did he previously have it in for this guy, it wouldn’t justify anything that’s not what I was looking at. I think I’ve condemned psycho cop enough here but maybe not enough for some. He was a bad cop. A bad cop that murdered a human. Is that clear enough.
    No I getcha man, just relaying what I saw . Everyone has a history and at least half a closet of skeletons so who knows. But I can't imagine in such a huge public club scene they wouldn't have at least 1 eye witness to prior beefs or run ins between two men now plastered all over media. Orrrr maybe they do and they're now in someone's trunk down by the river . Sorry now I'm getting carried away. Nevermind

    Not having a go at anyone... certainly not in this exchange.

    My only comment is on how look how the plot can twist and turn, even to the point of the usual nut jobs calling it a staged event..... and that was with a video camera staring right down the faces of the participants in plain daylight.

    One can only imagine had there been no video what the version would've been like..... or if the video was a bit murky or maybe it was raining that day or what have you.

    It's also a fact of human nature that the longer a story gets chewed on..... the more odd variations come tumbling out.

    Like the classic group exercise where you whisper something in someone's ear and by the time it gets to the end it's nothing like the original story.

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    One of the MANY downsides of technology really is that it is very easy to fake stuff now and because of that people just assume that everything is fake. It feeds into itself and blurs the lines of perception and belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    One of the MANY downsides of technology really is that it is very easy to fake stuff now and because of that people just assume that everything is fake. It feeds into itself and blurs the lines of perception and belief.

    This takes no gray matter between the ears, but yeah...... some people go down that path. It's easier to cry "fake" at everything and demand proof of it being otherwise, than to stimulate some neurons in that protrusion above the shoulders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    One of the MANY downsides of technology really is that it is very easy to fake stuff now and because of that people just assume that everything is fake. It feeds into itself and blurs the lines of perception and belief.
    it easy to fake things these day with technology. but there are many other reasons to suspect these events are fake
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Video evidence can be great. That is one of the things that gets me with this video, psycho cop knew he was being filmed and the way he just nonchalantly put his hand in his pocket as he crushed the dude shows how wrong it is. In other cases the video only tells a small portion of the story. Body and other cams are good tools but it my area there was a rash of police cars with open hoods. Cops would claim they were having car problems and police car hoods were opened to obstruct the camera view. Body cams would “fall out of place” at certain times. Sometimes it was legit being knocked out of place during a struggle other times cops would do it on purpose. By stander cams can tell different stories from different angles. So video evidence can have its problems, with surveillance videos it gets even stickier, video that convicted someone was used later to get them off on appeal when closer scrutiny was payed to it and it was found the dude in the video was taller than suspect. No one had compared size prior with measurements from known objects in the video. Then you have creative editing and other abuses of surveillance cams. These issues don’t come into play with the psycho cop, merely saying while video evidence can be good, it has had its issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Video evidence can be great. That is one of the things that gets me with this video, psycho cop knew he was being filmed and the way he just nonchalantly put his hand in his pocket as he crushed the dude shows how wrong it is. In other cases the video only tells a small portion of the story. Body and other cams are good tools but it my area there was a rash of police cars with open hoods. Cops would claim they were having car problems and police car hoods were opened to obstruct the camera view. Body cams would “fall out of place” at certain times. Sometimes it was legit being knocked out of place during a struggle other times cops would do it on purpose. By stander cams can tell different stories from different angles. So video evidence can have its problems, with surveillance videos it gets even stickier, video that convicted someone was used later to get them off on appeal when closer scrutiny was payed to it and it was found the dude in the video was taller than suspect. No one had compared size prior with measurements from known objects in the video. Then you have creative editing and other abuses of surveillance cams. These issues don’t come into play with the psycho cop, merely saying while video evidence can be good, it has had its issues.
    it is strange he would continue while he was being filmed. if he wanted to kill george it could have been done out of sight & an excuse made up. no need to risk his pension. he didn't have his hand in his pocket the whole time. he is wearing black gloves so it is hard to see. he also has a knee pad on & a z shaped bar can be seen in that knee thigh area. we never get a complete video of these events & some of the quality is questionable. the guy recording from the side where we see the three cops on top stops recording & we never see those on the sidewalk filming in that footage. anyone know why the emf guys are wearing vests? & why the cop kept his knee on george after the emf guy checked his pulse? & why emergency protocols weren't followed
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    So I don’t know much about the case anymore as we have moved on to toppling the system. What is the link between dirty cop and George? Like has it been proven? A personal life link? Is the porn stuff true or is that possible conspiracy stuff. I’m trying to avoid too much of it, we have race and wuhan covered here all the time, my views aren’t that important plus everything has a hair trigger right now I don’t want to deal with people freaking out. It would just be fucked up if there is some motive this cop had which I’m hearing alluded to but I don’t know what’s true and what isn’t
    Cop may or may not have moonlighted as security at some club Floyd may or may not have also worked at. Or it was some of that free feeding 'fake news' via social media former club owner trying to get themselves a 'push'. An on duty killer cop is still an on killer duty cop though.
    Ya I’m not trying to say the murder was anything but just curious of the motivation. Did he previously have it in for this guy, it wouldn’t justify anything that’s not what I was looking at. I think I’ve condemned psycho cop enough here but maybe not enough for some. He was a bad cop. A bad cop that murdered a human. Is that clear enough.
    No I getcha man, just relaying what I saw . Everyone has a history and at least half a closet of skeletons so who knows. But I can't imagine in such a huge public club scene they wouldn't have at least 1 eye witness to prior beefs or run ins between two men now plastered all over media. Orrrr maybe they do and they're now in someone's trunk down by the river . Sorry now I'm getting carried away. Nevermind

    Not having a go at anyone... certainly not in this exchange.

    My only comment is on how look how the plot can twist and turn, even to the point of the usual nut jobs calling it a staged event..... and that was with a video camera staring right down the faces of the participants in plain daylight.

    One can only imagine had there been no video what the version would've been like..... or if the video was a bit murky or maybe it was raining that day or what have you.

    It's also a fact of human nature that the longer a story gets chewed on..... the more odd variations come tumbling out.

    Like the classic group exercise where you whisper something in someone's ear and by the time it gets to the end it's nothing like the original story.
    how long did it take before the truth about the gulf of tonkin came out? you do know that the media has been caught out time & time again faking the news yeh? just because they are showing you video doesn't mean what they are showing you is true. there is missing footage from the george event. all those body cams should show a lot more. the footage from the other side showing the three cops on him is murky. phone cameras today record in high definition but we always get this fuzzy mess
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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