Cooking the Books on Covid-19?

[TIC]

but you didn't copy my quote did you? well my question was do masks work. so either they do or they don't. we are talking about if they will stop an invisible virus. it is not just my knowledge on filtration but independent research & verified citations from osha. you can provide your own for us to discuss. i don't care what others believe. beliefs aren't facts. when they start mandating this stuff on people is where the problem starts. you yourself have said that masks need to be combined with social distancing. so are masks in combination with social distancing one hundred percent effective? don't bother answering. the only way to be one hundred percent effective would be a hazmat suit with it's on air supply

[TitoFan]

First you don't even believe the virus is real. So why are we having this conversation? Why care about masks against a virus you say doesn't exist? Doesn't add up. Assuming you're just arguing for argument's sake, no....... you're wrong. It's not simply "masks work or they don't." There is a filtration efficiency involved, just like any filter in any application. If you're having trouble following, look it up. Filters are rated as to their efficiency in removing particles from airflow. It's not simply a matter of 100% or 0%. That's not the way it works. But hey... it's not my job to instruct you. Number one I'd have to want to convince you, which I don't.... and number two, I'd have to be convinced I'm talking with someone who gives a fuck, which you obviously don't. So carry on. Maybe you can convince others of your beliefs.

[TIC]

First you don't even believe the virus is real. So why are we having this conversation? Why care about masks against a virus you say doesn't exist? Doesn't add up. Assuming you're just arguing for argument's sake, no....... you're wrong. It's not simply "masks work or they don't." There is a filtration efficiency involved, just like any filter in any application. If you're having trouble following, look it up. Filters are rated as to their efficiency in removing particles from airflow. It's not simply a matter of 100% or 0%. That's not the way it works. But hey... it's not my job to instruct you. Number one I'd have to want to convince you, which I don't.... and number two, I'd have to be convinced I'm talking with someone who gives a fuck, which you obviously don't. So carry on. Maybe you can convince others of your beliefs.

covid being a virus caught from outside the body through the air or off surfaces & masks are two different discussions. i don't care about masks. i care about them being mandatory. i understand how filtration works on each type of mask. i have mentioned osha's own independent research as a means for you to research & verify the citations. not my beliefs

[NoSavingByTheBell]

TIC was the one who phantom-copied something that two other posters had pasted already. Phantom copying it's not really legit, especially if two other posters have already pasted something. Copying something is okay but TIC has used it as a patch like someone would use it in a lifeboat, and Tito fan rightly said that they were three or four holes in the boat. The only way I can see TIC being correct on this if it is a phantom boat. Otherwise no way can he get away with phantom copying what two other posters pasted.

[TIC]

TIC was the one who phantom-copied something that two other posters had pasted already. Phantom copying it's not really legit, especially if two other posters have already pasted something. Copying something is okay but TIC has used it as a patch like someone would use it in a lifeboat, and Tito fan rightly said that they were three or four holes in the boat. The only way I can see TIC being correct on this if it is a phantom boat. Otherwise no way can he get away with phantom copying what two other posters pasted.

you haven't told me what type of better mask type you use

[Gandalf]

TIC was the one who phantom-copied something that two other posters had pasted already. Phantom copying it's not really legit, especially if two other posters have already pasted something. Copying something is okay but TIC has used it as a patch like someone would use it in a lifeboat, and Tito fan rightly said that they were three or four holes in the boat. The only way I can see TIC being correct on this if it is a phantom boat. Otherwise no way can he get away with phantom copying what two other posters pasted.

you haven't told me what type of better mask type you use

I have two and the one in the packet with the label is in my car and the one I have here just your usual looking mask. It definitely filters to a degree anything coming out and likely coming in, but unless I am wearing shades it is not that effective. The eyes take in everything. I scratched my eye recently and have to put in medicine nightly. I taste the medicine in my throat almost immediately. It gets in the eye, it is getting in the body. I wear shades as a result too. I am hunky dory.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

THE FAKEST BULLSHIT YOU'LL EVER SEE, PLUS THIS HYPOCRITE IS 60 DAYS LATE WITH THIS SHIT----- WE GOT 10,000 CASES YESTERDAY AND 8,000 TODAY

Why does this feel like a SNL skit?
I can feel the back pedaling.

@Gandalf @El Kabong @TitoFan @Beanz

[TitoFan]

Abbott has been harshly criticized for his handling of the pandemic, and the results are bearing that out.

I've always believed as one expert well put it on a televised interview recently.

Comparing the U.S. to any one country is not really accurate in this case.

It's more like 50 different countries, all going in distinctly separate directions.

A strong federal leadership from the very beginning may have yielded much better results.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Abbott has been harshly criticized for his handling of the pandemic, and the results are bearing that out.

I've always believed as one expert well put it on a televised interview recently.

Comparing the U.S. to any one country is not really accurate in this case.

It's more like 50 different countries, all going in distinctly separate directions.

A strong federal leadership from the very beginning may have yielded much better results.

Exactly. You have states doing INSANE SHIT, I saw a fistfight today in Aldi's here in Irving, Texas, a man went in about 40 years old, no mask, the poor Nepali cashier had to walk up to him around her register and say "Sir, Im sorry, I have to call security if you do NOT COMPLY with the mask mandate." This dude said I DONT CARE, I'M FREE, I NEED TO BUY FOOD. So she called security but before they showed up NAOTHER 40 year old guy went up to him and screamed thru his mask MOFO, ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE FUCKING THINGS UP! GET THE F*** OUT OF THIS STORE, YOURE THREATENING EVERYONE HERE, next thing I know I hear a bottle break, I ran up to the end of the aisle and glass everywhere, the asshole had grabbed a glass jar of peanuts and threw it down at the other guy's feet, both screaming at eaech other, the maskless PIECE OF SHIT tackled the other guy and they are on the ground like UFC punching each other in the ribs, both were evenly matched, then security comes in and pulls them apart. Its insane over here, now Abbott was forced to EAT FUCKING CROW TONIGHT, and declared this Mask Mandate IN ALL PLACES IN PUBLIC. People are going to start shooting places up here when denied entry. This country is totally fucked. Get me the living hell out of here. First fucking flight out. You all can have it. I know when I see a totally collapsed empire from its own HUBRIS.