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    Default Re: Covid- 19 - Second wave

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    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
    So it's about feelings and perception?

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    Default Re: Covid- 19 - Second wave

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
    So it's about feelings and perception?
    No, it is about protection and safety first.
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    Default Re: Covid- 19 - Second wave

    Well, to be honest, for me it is about perception.

    Whilst I think a mask will somewhat reduce risk of Covid transmission, I don't think it is as effective as sanitisation and genuine social distancing.

    So I do think quite a lot is about helping other people feel safe. Clearly, the government want shops to open to try and rescue our economy ... and if masks make people feel safer and somewhat reduce their risk doing their shopping then that's fine by me.

    So, I will wear a mask without complaint .... knowing it's not about me, it's about other people. I don't find it a huge deal to wear a mask really.
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    It's also highly recommended for bank robberies.

    You can pop into a corner shop on your way to or from a bank robbery and not even have to remember to take your mask off.

    Win/win all around
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    No, it is about protection and safety first.
    If that's the case then you're going to need/want more than a cloth mask or a surgical mask. You'll want/need at least an N95 and then you'll also need eye protection and you'll probably also want gloves. Just being real with you my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    No, it is about protection and safety first.
    If that's the case then you're going to need/want more than a cloth mask or a surgical mask. You'll want/need at least an N95 and then you'll also need eye protection and you'll probably also want gloves. Just being real with you my friend.
    & a n95 mask wouldn't stop someone already infected from breathing the virus out into the air
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Covid- 19 - Second wave

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
    So it's about feelings and perception?
    No, it is about protection and safety first.
    if it was about safety & protection then masks would be mandatory everywhere & there would be no exemptions. the uk would make mask wearing mandatory immediately, not in ten days time. only the retarded cannot see the bullshit in this & seem to ignore that masks don't cover eyes
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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