Extremism is the WORST disease

[El Kabong]

Wiley is right on this: You got to bring value...but every black that tried that loss their value. Why dont blacks help themselves & when one does, they are labeled as black nationalists, racists. Shun from all media.

So we as blacks are stuck with rappers, athletes to assist, while the Ben Carsons, the Herman Caines, the Clarence Thomas' the Alan Keyes, Corduroy and Zirconium aka Diamond & Silk, they all had the spotlight and rather than bring that value- they used their spotlight to denounce their own...while FOX news propped them up as heroes for blacks.

Ben Carson is HUD Secretary after having been head pediatric neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins after being raised by just his mother from poverty...."propped up" eh?

Clarence Thomas grew up broke and homeless in Georgia ended up going to Yale and becoming a Supreme Court Justice...."propped up"?

Herman Cain grew up poor in a single parent household and worked his ass off to wind up being CEO of Godfather Pizza and eventually ran for President..."propped up"?

Diamond & Silk have made their own success on YouTube

Alan Keyes was an Army brat who wound up going to Harvard. Surely he was "propped up" by the GOP to run against Obama in the Senate election in 2004, but as a speaker for "the race" no.



In fact 100% of the people you've mentioned probably can't open Twitter without being called Uncle Tom's or "Coons" and why? They succeeded where others failed? They didn't need the entire system bent to their will in order to achieve what they did. That's the big fucking problem in "The Black community" it's that not only are you all treated like a voting monolith Blacks police themselves in order to keep it that way thereby wiping out any and all political power you could possibly muster because the Democrats have to do exactly 1 thing to win your votes.....and that thing is "not be Republicans".


It's sad. Nobody expects any other group to vote 100% in lock step. Not Mexicans, not Cubans, not Gays, not Asians, not lefthanded people, not anyone, but black people...oh you had better vote Democrat or else you'll be called a "race traitor" by effete white liberals.


That alone would have me wanting to burn down the Democrat party, but hey whatever. I'm an INDIVIDUAL it's the biggest minority group there is and I represent ME and I answer to ME and I'll have no-fucking-body dictate to me what is acceptable or unacceptable because it's my God given right......I hope one day to see such individuality, but right now I see effete white liberals attempting harass people into voting Democrat by FORCE.




But perhaps I'm mistaken

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Wiley is right on this: You got to bring value...but every black that tried that loss their value. Why dont blacks help themselves & when one does, they are labeled as black nationalists, racists. Shun from all media.

So we as blacks are stuck with rappers, athletes to assist, while the Ben Carsons, the Herman Caines, the Clarence Thomas' the Alan Keyes, Corduroy and Zirconium aka Diamond & Silk, they all had the spotlight and rather than bring that value- they used their spotlight to denounce their own...while FOX news propped them up as heroes for blacks.

Ben Carson is HUD Secretary after having been head pediatric neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins after being raised by just his mother from poverty...."propped up" eh?

Clarence Thomas grew up broke and homeless in Georgia ended up going to Yale and becoming a Supreme Court Justice...."propped up"?

Herman Cain grew up poor in a single parent household and worked his ass off to wind up being CEO of Godfather Pizza and eventually ran for President..."propped up"?

Diamond & Silk have made their own success on YouTube

Alan Keyes was an Army brat who wound up going to Harvard. Surely he was "propped up" by the GOP to run against Obama in the Senate election in 2004, but as a speaker for "the race" no.



In fact 100% of the people you've mentioned probably can't open Twitter without being called Uncle Tom's or "Coons" and why? They succeeded where others failed? They didn't need the entire system bent to their will in order to achieve what they did. That's the big fucking problem in "The Black community" it's that not only are you all treated like a voting monolith Blacks police themselves in order to keep it that way thereby wiping out any and all political power you could possibly muster because the Democrats have to do exactly 1 thing to win your votes.....and that thing is "not be Republicans".


It's sad. Nobody expects any other group to vote 100% in lock step. Not Mexicans, not Cubans, not Gays, not Asians, not lefthanded people, not anyone, but black people...oh you had better vote Democrat or else you'll be called a "race traitor" by effete white liberals.


That alone would have me wanting to burn down the Democrat party, but hey whatever. I'm an INDIVIDUAL it's the biggest minority group there is and I represent ME and I answer to ME and I'll have no-fucking-body dictate to me what is acceptable or unacceptable because it's my God given right......I hope one day to see such individuality, but right now I see effete white liberals attempting harass people into voting Democrat by FORCE.




But perhaps I'm mistaken

Sounds like anarchy.

I like it.

[Beanz]

'God given right' is surely a pretty extremist and dangerous stance to take. The cult of the individual. What it really means is 'I am more important than you and material things are more important than people, fuck you, I think so little of God I will debase the idea by using it as an excuse to deny you your rights in an arrogant attempt to justify my own selfish Intransigence '.

Monarchs the very people you chose to extricate yourselves from in the states, have long claimed' God given right' as an excuse to trample people's rights. The uncomfortable truth is that 'we the people' were the original SJWs. Compassionate, ethical human beings who fought to secure human rights, and God never gave you squat.

Forgive me if I am mistaken but I am pretty sure there is no mention of God in the constitution or Bill of rights. Its just passing the book and declaring the same feudal God given bullshit Lords of the Manor you all ran from, have used for centuries.

So actually it is distinctly unAmerican to invoke God and try to reconnect church and state in some weird proto European model.

[SlimTrae]

Wiley is right on this: You got to bring value...but every black that tried that loss their value. Why dont blacks help themselves & when one does, they are labeled as black nationalists, racists. Shun from all media.

So we as blacks are stuck with rappers, athletes to assist, while the Ben Carsons, the Herman Caines, the Clarence Thomas' the Alan Keyes, Corduroy and Zirconium aka Diamond & Silk, they all had the spotlight and rather than bring that value- they used their spotlight to denounce their own...while FOX news propped them up as heroes for blacks.

Ben Carson is HUD Secretary after having been head pediatric neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins after being raised by just his mother from poverty...."propped up" eh?

Clarence Thomas grew up broke and homeless in Georgia ended up going to Yale and becoming a Supreme Court Justice...."propped up"?

Herman Cain grew up poor in a single parent household and worked his ass off to wind up being CEO of Godfather Pizza and eventually ran for President..."propped up"?

Diamond & Silk have made their own success on YouTube

Alan Keyes was an Army brat who wound up going to Harvard. Surely he was "propped up" by the GOP to run against Obama in the Senate election in 2004, but as a speaker for "the race" no.



In fact 100% of the people you've mentioned probably can't open Twitter without being called Uncle Tom's or "Coons" and why? They succeeded where others failed? They didn't need the entire system bent to their will in order to achieve what they did. That's the big fucking problem in "The Black community" it's that not only are you all treated like a voting monolith Blacks police themselves in order to keep it that way thereby wiping out any and all political power you could possibly muster because the Democrats have to do exactly 1 thing to win your votes.....and that thing is "not be Republicans".


It's sad. Nobody expects any other group to vote 100% in lock step. Not Mexicans, not Cubans, not Gays, not Asians, not lefthanded people, not anyone, but black people...oh you had better vote Democrat or else you'll be called a "race traitor" by effete white liberals.


That alone would have me wanting to burn down the Democrat party, but hey whatever. I'm an INDIVIDUAL it's the biggest minority group there is and I represent ME and I answer to ME and I'll have no-fucking-body dictate to me what is acceptable or unacceptable because it's my God given right......I hope one day to see such individuality, but right now I see effete white liberals attempting harass people into voting Democrat by FORCE.




But perhaps I'm mistaken

No sir you are not mistaken you just see it from a perspective different than those who call them as you stated: In fact 100% of the people you've mentioned probably can't open Twitter without being called Uncle Tom's or "Coons" and why? They succeeded where others failed?

Sellout meanings -once they make it- they deride their own, and don't come back. Now if you can't hear this coming from a black man telling you why I call these people sellouts (not so much uncle tom, that is a misunderstood label) but I digress. Our dissing of them is based on how they are so willing to insult their own on television. How they don't come back, heck I will say Carson on occasion spoke at a school or two, thats nice.

You are talking about how they raised themselves, while I am saying only those that raise themselves up- by way of politics, specifically Republican are accepted by whites overall. Whereas the ones who raise themselves up and reject ideology aka liberalism or conservatism are also labeled.
Just as you stated they are labeled as sellouts, well they label other blacks as militants, racists. Not race baiters so much, thats the Al Sharpton Jesse Jackson crew that fits that bill-they gets no love from me & my history here bares witness.

Ben is sec of Hud -that which is derided as frivolous government agency- that allows people like Sean Hannity to make money off it. & how did he qualify for it? What skills? Take him out & not too many others in this admin. Ben Carson wants Americans living on housing assistance to put more of their income toward rent and he wants to give public housing authorities the ability to impose work requirements on tenants. That way, when it happens for those of color the response is: well a black guy did it. Funny how this is now an issue- 30 mil are out of jobs and we can let potential slum lords dictate to them.

Same for Thomas, as soon as he was sworn in - he began to gut shit under Reagan with the caveat, well it cant be racist a black guy is doing it.

Wanda from Jamie Fox and Shenaena from Martin are on par with what silk and diamond are seen by conservatives...until Trump put those chocolate piglets on his team. How could they have been successful otherwise? No skills, they act ghetto as hell, so now its ok when they do it? Why else were you limited in saying a success on youtube.

Have you seen the way the crowds act when Trump forced those 2 unbuhweavable sows on stage? One can hear applause in the clip below, then when the camera pans look at their faces. They look disgusted! LOL! Some are even walking I guess to the concession stand or the restroom to throw up. Successful? They were kicked off FOX for saying the same stuff others say- nonsensical drivel.


This guy here was also an internet Youtube success, doesn't mean he is ready to help a political figure!


Alan Keys is so loathed today, when was the last time he had a spot on anyone's show? he came out during the rise of Rush and everyone got a nationally syndicated show but him. He was reduced to local radio.

And heck to the yes him & Cain was propped up. Who here has had Godfather's pizza? and liked it? Oh, he is a CEO, well there is one for Dollar Tree as well, so if we go by how much they brought in, he isnt that special other than a black guy that votes republican, take away that conservative mindset and what good could be seen in him or Thomas?
Remember now; when Herman 9-9-9 Cain was accused of having two affairs? No one came to his aid. And as soon as he dropped out, so, too did those 2 over-the-hill women dropped their case. He blamed the liberal media as usual.


Remember; Herman was a success for deriding Obama, then given the chance to tell how he would have handled affairs- shows him in an agonizing several moments where he cant name a damn thing he would have done different. And he wasnt propped up by conservatives?

In other words what African Americans do you respect that dont vote Republican? I would prefer something here from your past as if you have to initiate one now...IMO would come across as trying to make a point-just to be right as opposed to revealing that you dont have criteria of one needs to be a conservative in order for your to give props to persons of color.
See, I can name many successful people who pulled themselves up. But if they dont hollar I am a Democrat -liberals call them the same shit Republicans do: racists, black militants.

My purpose for responding to the videos is simple: Where are these people at in turn of blacks who get shot while unarmed? That is what Wiley claimed- Your videos showed Wiley agreed blacks are unfairly targeted. but said we are past kneeling, so where are these people at that you think are more than just props..aka props for conservatives because they met the prerequisite of downing Democrats/Liberals.

where are these conservatives who agree with Wiley that we are past kneeling as opposed to claiming: "kneeling was a sign of disrespect of the flag and of the United States.

Where are their dollars to go back and do for others as Lebron James did? How is opening a school not worthy of your respect?
And shuffle butt Ben carson claimed Obama Health care was the worst thing to happen to blacks since slavery...yet 4 years later he is ok with keeping it? That's not a dude looking to be accepted among conservatives?

He wrote in his book how he helped whites from angry blacks while in school, lied about a knife being thrusted into a belt buckle, to which we both know Trump clowned his behind Called him a sick puppy. Compared him to a pedophile, then hired him for Hud, damn. Clowned him like a damn fool.


Last I ran the gamut on Wiley mentioning rappers. Why? Is that the best he can identify among blacks? or the best without losing the respect of right wing media if he names those who are neither left nor right?

& claiming blacks have to be lock step with Dems is a conservative narrative. A lie. Who is going to vote for a party that rejected us in 2008 to have debates? Only Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee and 2 others showed. Trump may have gotten 29% of the Hispanic vote, but look at where they occurred, same as with Dubya states that overlooked their illegal status. Did blacks vote for Sanders and his free stuff agenda? No they didn't. And while the % was high for Hillary significantly less blacks voted in 2016, a lot stayed home, yet the conservative narrative omits that having individual such as yourself literally thinking we are forced to vote Dem as opposed to looking at how the republican's party has made inclusive for all the racist southern democrats that turned Republican. How does one show up at a rally next to a confederate flag? How does one stand next to thousands chanting lock her up- to minorities & Muslims.

[El Kabong]

'God given right' is surely a pretty extremist and dangerous stance to take. The cult of the individual. What it really means is 'I am more important than you and material things are more important than people, fuck you, I think so little of God I will debase the idea by using it as an excuse to deny you your rights in an arrogant attempt to justify my own selfish Intransigence '.

Monarchs the very people you chose to extricate yourselves from in the states, have long claimed' God given right' as an excuse to trample people's rights. The uncomfortable truth is that 'we the people' were the original SJWs. Compassionate, ethical human beings who fought to secure human rights, and God never gave you squat.

Forgive me if I am mistaken but I am pretty sure there is no mention of God in the constitution or Bill of rights. Its just passing the book and declaring the same feudal God given bullshit Lords of the Manor you all ran from, have used for centuries.

So actually it is distinctly unAmerican to invoke God and try to reconnect church and state in some weird proto European model.

You know I'd expect every so often you wouldn't deliberately read the absolute worst into what I post but I guess I think too highly of you.

'God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you...or shouldn't be able to rather, but do please continue on with your assuming the stupid shit you're assuming. Read INALIENABLE unable to be taken away or given to by the possessor. I would think I wouldn't have to spell that out for you yet here we are and why are we here? Because you assume the absolute worst of me, you always have and you always will....and THAT would be your right to believe which I nor anyone else can take from you, do you understand?

"What it really means is"....oh how kind of you to attempt to translate for me . What it means is, no government, no man, no person, no group, no nobody other than our creator (or whatever deity you follow or don't) endowed in each individual inalienable rights.....but hey I guess you don't accept that and so who gives you your rights? "We the people"? The MOB? They can & will take your rights in a heartbeat if you assume of course they gave them to you, but maybe you'll find that out on your own.

No mentions of God in The Constitution or Bill of Rights, but certainly quite a few in The Declaration of Independence the most famous being: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”...and there's a reason for this https://allthingsliberty.com/2016/02...-constitution/. Also each individual state has it's own Constitution and the majority of those mention God for example: "We, the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for the preservation of the American Union and the existence of our civil, political and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those blessings to us and our posterity, do, for the more certain security thereof and for the better government of this State, ordain and establish this Constitution." .

So I'm sorry you were saying how "unAmerican" it was to invoke God....do please continue

[NoSavingByTheBell]

'God given right' is surely a pretty extremist and dangerous stance to take. The cult of the individual. What it really means is 'I am more important than you and material things are more important than people, fuck you, I think so little of God I will debase the idea by using it as an excuse to deny you your rights in an arrogant attempt to justify my own selfish Intransigence '.

Monarchs the very people you chose to extricate yourselves from in the states, have long claimed' God given right' as an excuse to trample people's rights. The uncomfortable truth is that 'we the people' were the original SJWs. Compassionate, ethical human beings who fought to secure human rights, and God never gave you squat.

Forgive me if I am mistaken but I am pretty sure there is no mention of God in the constitution or Bill of rights. Its just passing the book and declaring the same feudal God given bullshit Lords of the Manor you all ran from, have used for centuries.

So actually it is distinctly unAmerican to invoke God and try to reconnect church and state in some weird proto European model.

You know I'd expect every so often you wouldn't deliberately read the absolute worst into what I post but I guess I think too highly of you.

'God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you...or shouldn't be able to rather, but do please continue on with your assuming the stupid shit you're assuming. Read INALIENABLE unable to be taken away or given to by the possessor. I would think I wouldn't have to spell that out for you yet here we are and why are we here? Because you assume the absolute worst of me, you always have and you always will....and THAT would be your right to believe which I nor anyone else can take from you, do you understand?

"What it really means is"....oh how kind of you to attempt to translate for me . What it means is, no government, no man, no person, no group, no nobody other than our creator (or whatever deity you follow or don't) endowed in each individual inalienable rights.....but hey I guess you don't accept that and so who gives you your rights? "We the people"? The MOB? They can & will take your rights in a heartbeat if you assume of course they gave them to you, but maybe you'll find that out on your own.

No mentions of God in The Constitution or Bill of Rights, but certainly quite a few in The Declaration of Independence the most famous being: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”...and there's a reason for this https://allthingsliberty.com/2016/02...-constitution/. Also each individual state has it's own Constitution and the majority of those mention God for example: "We, the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for the preservation of the American Union and the existence of our civil, political and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those blessings to us and our posterity, do, for the more certain security thereof and for the better government of this State, ordain and establish this Constitution." .

So I'm sorry you were saying how "unAmerican" it was to invoke God....do please continue

Wait.... God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you.

MAN didn't say that?

Wait..... SO YOU HEARD GOD SAY IT?

Holy fucking shit.

[El Kabong]

Wait.... God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you.

MAN didn't say that?

Wait..... SO YOU HEARD GOD SAY IT?

Holy fucking shit.

Yes Brockton, sure thing. I'm not going to ever question how fucking retarded you are.

[Dark Lord Al]

'God given right' is surely a pretty extremist and dangerous stance to take. The cult of the individual. What it really means is 'I am more important than you and material things are more important than people, fuck you, I think so little of God I will debase the idea by using it as an excuse to deny you your rights in an arrogant attempt to justify my own selfish Intransigence '.

Monarchs the very people you chose to extricate yourselves from in the states, have long claimed' God given right' as an excuse to trample people's rights. The uncomfortable truth is that 'we the people' were the original SJWs. Compassionate, ethical human beings who fought to secure human rights, and God never gave you squat.

Forgive me if I am mistaken but I am pretty sure there is no mention of God in the constitution or Bill of rights. Its just passing the book and declaring the same feudal God given bullshit Lords of the Manor you all ran from, have used for centuries.

So actually it is distinctly unAmerican to invoke God and try to reconnect church and state in some weird proto European model.

You know I'd expect every so often you wouldn't deliberately read the absolute worst into what I post but I guess I think too highly of you.

'God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you...or shouldn't be able to rather, but do please continue on with your assuming the stupid shit you're assuming. Read INALIENABLE unable to be taken away or given to by the possessor. I would think I wouldn't have to spell that out for you yet here we are and why are we here? Because you assume the absolute worst of me, you always have and you always will....and THAT would be your right to believe which I nor anyone else can take from you, do you understand?

"What it really means is"....oh how kind of you to attempt to translate for me . What it means is, no government, no man, no person, no group, no nobody other than our creator (or whatever deity you follow or don't) endowed in each individual inalienable rights.....but hey I guess you don't accept that and so who gives you your rights? "We the people"? The MOB? They can & will take your rights in a heartbeat if you assume of course they gave them to you, but maybe you'll find that out on your own.

No mentions of God in The Constitution or Bill of Rights, but certainly quite a few in The Declaration of Independence the most famous being: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”...and there's a reason for this https://allthingsliberty.com/2016/02...-constitution/. Also each individual state has it's own Constitution and the majority of those mention God for example: "We, the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for the preservation of the American Union and the existence of our civil, political and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those blessings to us and our posterity, do, for the more certain security thereof and for the better government of this State, ordain and establish this Constitution." .

So I'm sorry you were saying how "unAmerican" it was to invoke God....do please continue

Wait.... God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you.

MAN didn't say that?

Wait..... SO YOU HEARD GOD SAY IT?

Holy fucking shit.

Pretty sure it was Donald Trump who said that

[NoSavingByTheBell]

'God given right' is surely a pretty extremist and dangerous stance to take. The cult of the individual. What it really means is 'I am more important than you and material things are more important than people, fuck you, I think so little of God I will debase the idea by using it as an excuse to deny you your rights in an arrogant attempt to justify my own selfish Intransigence '.

Monarchs the very people you chose to extricate yourselves from in the states, have long claimed' God given right' as an excuse to trample people's rights. The uncomfortable truth is that 'we the people' were the original SJWs. Compassionate, ethical human beings who fought to secure human rights, and God never gave you squat.

Forgive me if I am mistaken but I am pretty sure there is no mention of God in the constitution or Bill of rights. Its just passing the book and declaring the same feudal God given bullshit Lords of the Manor you all ran from, have used for centuries.

So actually it is distinctly unAmerican to invoke God and try to reconnect church and state in some weird proto European model.

You know I'd expect every so often you wouldn't deliberately read the absolute worst into what I post but I guess I think too highly of you.

'God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you...or shouldn't be able to rather, but do please continue on with your assuming the stupid shit you're assuming. Read INALIENABLE unable to be taken away or given to by the possessor. I would think I wouldn't have to spell that out for you yet here we are and why are we here? Because you assume the absolute worst of me, you always have and you always will....and THAT would be your right to believe which I nor anyone else can take from you, do you understand?

"What it really means is"....oh how kind of you to attempt to translate for me . What it means is, no government, no man, no person, no group, no nobody other than our creator (or whatever deity you follow or don't) endowed in each individual inalienable rights.....but hey I guess you don't accept that and so who gives you your rights? "We the people"? The MOB? They can & will take your rights in a heartbeat if you assume of course they gave them to you, but maybe you'll find that out on your own.

No mentions of God in The Constitution or Bill of Rights, but certainly quite a few in The Declaration of Independence the most famous being: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”...and there's a reason for this https://allthingsliberty.com/2016/02...-constitution/. Also each individual state has it's own Constitution and the majority of those mention God for example: "We, the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for the preservation of the American Union and the existence of our civil, political and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those blessings to us and our posterity, do, for the more certain security thereof and for the better government of this State, ordain and establish this Constitution." .

So I'm sorry you were saying how "unAmerican" it was to invoke God....do please continue

Wait.... God given right' meaning something MAN didn't bestow on you. MAN doesn't say "you can speak freely" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to defend yourself" MAN doesn't say "You're allowed to own property and create wealth" ergo MAN can't take that away from you.

MAN didn't say that?

Wait..... SO YOU HEARD GOD SAY IT?

Holy fucking shit.

Pretty sure it was Donald Trump who said that

Exactly

[El Kabong]

"Sellout meanings -once they make it- they deride their own, and don't come back." ... OK then then please explain how exactly they "deride their own" and as for "not coming back" what is there to come back to and why? Who do the people that make it out owe? Rockefeller didn't drag everyone up to prosperity with him, Carnegie didn't, Buffet hasn't Gates hasn't. Not everyone makes it and those people who do aren't responsible for those who don't. They give back in a charitable manner to the best of their abilities.

People rejecting Conservatism and Liberalism are marginalized regardless of color.

What qualifications does Ben Carson have to run HUD? He lived the life, he knows exactly what that is like. Is that not good enough? I guess don't give him the job then

What you're arguing about Clarence Thomas has nothing to do with his color but how he interprets the Constitution....so I guess call him a sell out? I mean I guess I missed the day in Civics class where just because someone has a certain skin color they have to interpret the Constitution a certain way. I must have missed that one.

Alan Keyes is a fringe political player at this point. I can't tell you why, maybe he's not as interesting or as entertaining as other people. This kind of thing happens to people of other colors as well, but hey chalk it up to whatever makes your case Larry Elder has a show, does that count? Or no? Charles Payne has a show, does he count?

Diamond & Silk do well on YouTube and other social media sites because that's where they've established themselves. Terrence K. Williams has done the same. I mean I guess I don't understand what exactly you expect for these folks...I mean there's regular average white folks who attempt to do those things and fail miserably. There's people who make it huge on the internet and never help out their communities. How much do they owe their communities? Wouldn't that depend on how supported they felt from their community? I mean why attempt to feed a dog that will bite your hand?

Politics is a full contact thing and Trump went over the line with a few people not just Cain & Carson. Ted Cruz got called the Zodiac Killer by Trump and Trump also said Cruz's father shot JFK....but no one came to his aid!!! Trump attacked Jeb and people attempted to help Jeb because he's an establishment guy, but a lot of good that did him. So yeah that kind of thing happens and will continue to happen in politics, it's nothing new and actually it's fairly tame these days.

What African-Americans do I respect that don't vote Republican? Probably the folks I lift weights with and interact with on a daily basis more so than athletes or rappers or actors or whomever. I mean surely there are famous African-Americans I respect, but I personally am not as impacted by them as I am by my fellow citizens. I don't have to agree with them politically at all, respect is not a political issue for me.

"claiming blacks have to be lock step with Dems is a conservative narrative" .."If you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" - Joe Biden Democrat Presidential Nominee.

So that's a conservative narrative ya say?

[SlimTrae]

"Sellout meanings -once they make it- they deride their own, and don't come back." ... OK then then please explain how exactly they "deride their own" and as for "not coming back" what is there to come back to and why?

Prince the entertainer is an example- I dont know why I am bothering with this- He could have moved away- but keeping Paisley Park in Minny, allowed others to follow suit. It allowed him to bring talent from Minny to the world. Janet Jackson would have never had her hits of the albums Control & Rythm Nation had it not been for Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. They produced ALL her hits, how so? Because Prince pulled his schoolmates into the spot light. Morris Day is another
See why go to Hollywood to get musicians, when he could introduce the world to new gurus and at the same time- take some folks out the ghetto. But I dont expect you to understand. What I really like to say is insults, but it aint my style.

Who do the people that make it out owe? Rockefeller didn't drag everyone up to prosperity with him, Carnegie didn't, Buffet hasn't Gates hasn't. . They give back in a charitable manner to the best of their abilities.

Did these guys come from the lowest parts of their country?: I can't make any sense out of you asking me why should those who struggled to make it OUT of a bad environment- not try to ease that burden. Sorrowful IMO if a person can't comprehend that is how every person I've ever met or admired did when they made it out a bad situation be drugs...they come back to help those kick the habit. Be it ghetto- Lebron James didn't protest, didnt beg. He owed no one- yet he felt compelled to do for kids -what he didnt' get. he was blessed w/talent- Said he could have been shot like so many- so he put 8 million on his future generation. To open a school is a blessing. & Many charities have proven to be rip-offs & my people don't need charity- we're told we beg as it is-

Oprah lived in Milwaukee & privately built several apartment complexes in what was called Hillside projects. Now there are decent apartments, learning center, a clinic- How can you even raise a question to a black person on why we feel the need to come back and help. This is futile. Seriously.
Dr. Chancellor Williams spent 18 years walking from one part of Africa to gather info on tribes and languages that knew of Kmt as their home. aka Ancient Egypt- He could have taken his degree and moved to Beverly Hills but he went to Africa, -went blind in the process- just so we could know of Egypt from other than European institutions. Senator Obama did time as a grassroots organizer despite having a degree. How do U find fault in giving back to one's community? Serious? Let Ben & Clarence be the same way- but vote Democrat, would you back them then? If, so name a Dem or anyone NOT a con-serving narratives.

People rejecting Conservatism and Liberalism are marginalized regardless of color. -- exactly and you think that is ok. something is wrong with a person who is okay with a two tier branded system proclaiming either U side with me or I brand you as the worst.


What African-Americans do I respect that don't vote Republican? Probably the folks I lift weights with and interact with on a daily basis more so than athletes or rappers or actors or whomever.

(in other words, none.) Dont rewrite the question. Your video cited rappers, that is why I quoted him Wondering how much of his video did you truly like or was it just a generalize thing? The guy in the video you posted IMO got your respect because he denounced those you denounce, so I went in-depth on what he said- rappers & athletes...Not my heroes either, just be careful posting clips like that- I pay attention to every word. I asked you -what black leaders, not rappers or athletes. just like every trump supporter- there are none.
I mean surely there are famous African-Americans I respect, but I personally am not as impacted by them as I am by my fellow citizens.

( Again: I did not ask if you were impacted I asked who do you respect that doesn't acquiesce to what you believe in... ) I don't have to agree with them politically at all, respect is not a political issue for me.

"claiming blacks have to be lock step with Dems is a conservative narrative" .."If you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" - Joe Biden Democrat Presidential Nominee.

So that's a conservative narrative ya say?

Unless you address a post to me, it will be quite difficult to respond. IMO explaining to you is futile. I Just did a casual peruse on the times you have stated words like this: Ok, explain to me. or OK, well why is it then..
listed below & notice the majority of topics are always political, partisan, not boxing, you're fair there. Not music, just topics on ideology.

I didnt do a full search on how many times you answer a question with another question. The point for showing you this is to give you an opportunity to prove once in your Saddo Boxing life, have you ever had something explained to you and accepted it? See if you can't find one by the year 2020, why waste my time being the 30,449th time you wrote to someone "well answer me this? only to read the same ending, again.

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@El Kabong
If you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" - Joe Biden Democrat Presidential Nominee.

So that's a conservative narrative ya say?


Is Joe Biden Black? No. Was he born in a ghetto? No. So why bring up every person other than the one you showed in the video? All these responses to me and next to nothing on what I addressed; Two videos of him. Now you pull out Biden?
Blacks overwhelmingly liked Andrew Yang per Charmalagne da God and Sway in Morning Show. Not Biden. Watch the video of him saying it as opposed to quoting and tell me it was well received, it wasn't.

But just like Republicans who stole the election from Ron Paul in 2012, Sanders per Dems in 2016, they gave no play to Yang in 2020- & please dont take my example of Yang & turn it into a topic-

My point is whoever will vote for Biden is voting against a man who referred to NFL protestors as haters of the flag and the country, sons of bitches, damn that is sick.
Many know He Is ok with confederate flags in the republican party- only a symbol of racism when Dems had it.

Like black people should stand for a man who now speaks ok of a flag that stood against the stars & stripes. Bailing out corporations, farmers, after he derailed Obama like a dog for it. Lied like a dog & claimed he wasnt born in America- then years later he says ok we was.

We also knew when the economy got well, Department of Labor & Statistics bares it.

Like blacks will take Ben Carson serious when he said Obamacare was the worst thing to blacks since slavery, that negro needs to be slapped. Dont hear whites complaining on their obamacare- cause healthcare aint even an issue in this election.
Like we shouldn't talk about Carson the way Trump does- - he lied about stabbing a class mate. You've never addressed that belt buckle story have you? Its a stupid ass story that's why.

We heard Black Ben said Obama might be a Muslim and a Muslim shouldn't be prez, just pandering to a demographic that isnt his own. Trump clowned him. Then hired him- cause he was born like me - in the hood so, why not let me run it then, if that is how low the bar is set for running HUD- hell I thought it was unconstitutional & a waste of taxpayers $$ under Obama, now we need it & must have a once poor black because poor whites cant run it then huh? Sounds like affirmative action.


Aint a damn reason to vote for that orange diaper stained-world-record setting twittering-twat who watches tv on a daily basis as opposed to running a country- who allowed the CDC to dictate to him to shut down the economy. 30 million unemployed-
blacks who did not sneeze or cough turned away-dying as a result, of an exclusive use to beds without so few symptoms...now they are widening the symptoms nationwide...so sad that now whites who show more than those- well we have to allow, yet how many died because they didnt' show those 2 or 3 symptoms? What a feckless jackal of a leader. A mark. Unless Republican politicians are right that blacks are just not hygienical,
Outside Israel & Arabia the world loathes this POTUS.


Most important U could have identified how Charmalagne or whatever his name is, didn't take kindly and told Biden: we got a long way until the election- letting him know, - we don't have to vote for U.

Will you give him that credit? Or is credit only reserved for blacks who vote republican, claim conservative and praise Drumpf?

[El Kabong]

@El Kabong
If you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" - Joe Biden Democrat Presidential Nominee.

So that's a conservative narrative ya say?


Is Joe Biden Black? No. Was he born in a ghetto? No. So why bring up every person other than the one you showed in the video? All these responses to me and next to nothing on what I addressed; Two videos of him. Now you pull out Biden?
Blacks overwhelmingly liked Andrew Yang per Charmalagne da God and Sway in Morning Show. Not Biden. Watch the video of him saying it as opposed to quoting and tell me it was well received, it wasn't.

But just like Republicans who stole the election from Ron Paul in 2012, Sanders per Dems in 2016, they gave no play to Yang in 2020- & please dont take my example of Yang & turn it into a topic-

My point is whoever will vote for Biden is voting against a man who referred to NFL protestors as haters of the flag and the country, sons of bitches, damn that is sick.
Many know He Is ok with confederate flags in the republican party- only a symbol of racism when Dems had it.

Like black people should stand for a man who now speaks ok of a flag that stood against the stars & stripes. Bailing out corporations, farmers, after he derailed Obama like a dog for it. Lied like a dog & claimed he wasnt born in America- then years later he says ok we was.

We also knew when the economy got well, Department of Labor & Statistics bares it.

Like blacks will take Ben Carson serious when he said Obamacare was the worst thing to blacks since slavery, that negro needs to be slapped. Dont hear whites complaining on their obamacare- cause healthcare aint even an issue in this election.
Like we shouldn't talk about Carson the way Trump does- - he lied about stabbing a class mate. You've never addressed that belt buckle story have you? Its a stupid ass story that's why.

We heard Black Ben said Obama might be a Muslim and a Muslim shouldn't be prez, just pandering to a demographic that isnt his own. Trump clowned him. Then hired him- cause he was born like me - in the hood so, why not let me run it then, if that is how low the bar is set for running HUD- hell I thought it was unconstitutional & a waste of taxpayers $$ under Obama, now we need it & must have a once poor black because poor whites cant run it then huh? Sounds like affirmative action.


Aint a damn reason to vote for that orange diaper stained-world-record setting twittering-twat who watches tv on a daily basis as opposed to running a country- who allowed the CDC to dictate to him to shut down the economy. 30 million unemployed-
blacks who did not sneeze or cough turned away-dying as a result, of an exclusive use to beds without so few symptoms...now they are widening the symptoms nationwide...so sad that now whites who show more than those- well we have to allow, yet how many died because they didnt' show those 2 or 3 symptoms? What a feckless jackal of a leader. A mark. Unless Republican politicians are right that blacks are just not hygienical,
Outside Israel & Arabia the world loathes this POTUS.


Most important U could have identified how Charmalagne or whatever his name is, didn't take kindly and told Biden: we got a long way until the election- letting him know, - we don't have to vote for U.

Will you give him that credit? Or is credit only reserved for blacks who vote republican, claim conservative and praise Drumpf?

I bring up Biden because he showed what and how Establishment Democrats think. Not that anyone who pays attention truly needs a refresher on. All one needs do is see how Black conservatives are treated by their peers on the left, it's disgusting.

Charlamagne didn't know how to respond because I think he was aghast at the blatant disrespect shown to his face. But that gets a pass, it gets a pass and nobody can argue otherwise because anyone from another party or someone who wasn't as establishment as Biden is who said that in this day and age would have been CANCELLED. That is the God's honest truth.

OK, so people aren't voting FOR Biden, but AGAINST Trump, that's fine. People vote "against" all the time.

The NFL protesters ARE against the flag and Anthem, read Colin Kaepernick's 4th of July Tweet and tell me I'm wrong. Oh the NFL is now going to play the "Black National Anthem" oh so the NFL is "Making Segregation Great Again" eh? And if 100% of people don't stand for THAT Anthem what then?

The Battle Flag of Northern Virginia has indeed been used for bad things, people have co-opted it for some real shitty stuff and there's no excuse for it. But The Civil War wasn't ONLY about slavery, it was also about the States Rights to self determination. Surely the emotion is 100% on the side of slavery being the major issue, but the casus belli of the Civil War was SECESSION and whether the states had the right to do so. Given that the Treaty of Paris 1783 acknowledges the United States "existence as free, sovereign, and independent states" that along with the Bill of Rights 10th Amendment and the attempted peaceful secession of New England states around the War of 1812 lead the Confederate leaders to believe their states' had the right to self determination. Wouldn't really make a whole bunch of sense if 600,000 people were killed just because of slavery....especially if we're to believe that we're such a horrible racist nation. The Battle Flag of Northern Virginia is viewed through a prism. Some people see a relic of a bygone era, some people see it as a symbol of hate and evil, some people see it with no malice hard as that may be to believe. The Civil War is old and it has taken the nation a long time to heal, why this wound is still picked at is beyond me. As for bringing up Democrats use of the flag, that points to the hypocrisy of the very same people who are giving the A-OK to tear down historic statues and they always get away with their hypocrisy, ALWAYS and people are tired of it.

Further point being, what has President Trump DONE, have his actions not spoken loudly to the African-American community?

Because Trump got rid of the mandate in regards to Obamacare. Obamacare was a road to a system like Canada's or the UK's and while their system works for those countries (sometimes) they don't have our population.

Obama at the very least WAS a Muslim, he attended a Madrassa. He didn't think ISIS were all that big fo a threat, the "jv team" he called them. He never denounced Militant Islamic extremism, never called it out at all.

" You've never addressed that belt buckle story have you? Its a stupid ass story that's why." - In response to that I said "politics is full contact" and the cited what Trump said about Ted Cruz and Cruz's father. But hey if you don't want to accept it don't accept it.

I don't give a good God damn what "the world" thinks of Trump, I don't vote thinking "Gee will these other nations like us?" Why would I vote that way? I don't live in those countries I live in America. Do THOSE citizens think about who Americans like or don't like when they vote? I fucking doubt it.

Charlamagne handled Biden as best he could, I don't know what would have happened had Biden been there in person. It was a very awkward situation.

Ooooh "Drumpf" lol maaaaan you NAILED him!!!!! fucking cringe.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Lyle every one here hates you and sees you're a cunt.

[El Kabong]

Prince the entertainer is an example- I dont know why I am bothering with this- He could have moved away- but keeping Paisley Park in Minny, allowed others to follow suit. It allowed him to bring talent from Minny to the world. Janet Jackson would have never had her hits of the albums Control & Rythm Nation had it not been for Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. They produced ALL her hits, how so? Because Prince pulled his schoolmates into the spot light. Morris Day is another
See why go to Hollywood to get musicians, when he could introduce the world to new gurus and at the same time- take some folks out the ghetto. But I dont expect you to understand. What I really like to say is insults, but it aint my style.

Fair enough. My guess would be the people like Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas probably didn't run into many peers in their same situations to boost up when they made it. Afterwards they have given back....not that it matters I guess.

Sure it's great if you can hitch your friends' carts to your wagon and take them with you. Sometimes that nepotism works wonderfully and sometimes it doesn't there's plenty of examples for that lesson. Sometimes you give someone a boost and it helps them make it out, sometimes you could hand a person everything and they'll find a way to fuck it up.

If you want to post the insults then post the fucking insults OR be passive aggressive, it's your world my man.

Did these guys come from the lowest parts of their country?: I can't make any sense out of you asking me why should those who struggled to make it OUT of a bad environment- not try to ease that burden. Sorrowful IMO if a person can't comprehend that is how every person I've ever met or admired did when they made it out a bad situation be drugs...they come back to help those kick the habit. Be it ghetto- Lebron James didn't protest, didnt beg. He owed no one- yet he felt compelled to do for kids -what he didnt' get. he was blessed w/talent- Said he could have been shot like so many- so he put 8 million on his future generation. To open a school is a blessing. & Many charities have proven to be rip-offs & my people don't need charity- we're told we beg as it is-

Oprah lived in Milwaukee & privately built several apartment complexes in what was called Hillside projects. Now there are decent apartments, learning center, a clinic- How can you even raise a question to a black person on why we feel the need to come back and help. This is futile. Seriously.
Dr. Chancellor Williams spent 18 years walking from one part of Africa to gather info on tribes and languages that knew of Kmt as their home. aka Ancient Egypt- He could have taken his degree and moved to Beverly Hills but he went to Africa, -went blind in the process- just so we could know of Egypt from other than European institutions. Senator Obama did time as a grassroots organizer despite having a degree. How do U find fault in giving back to one's community? Serious? Let Ben & Clarence be the same way- but vote Democrat, would you back them then? If, so name a Dem or anyone NOT a con-serving narratives.

Carnegie and Rockefeller yes, they didn't start off all that well and yet they both made it quite big.

I don't fault "giving back" at all and the people I've made mention of HAVE given back. That said, nobody is under any obligation to do so. Lebron has so far helped a bunch of his friends and it hasn't hurt him or them and props to him for that, but that's no different than what the extremely wealthy do which is frowned upon.

"my people don't need charity- we're told we beg as it is" that line of thought doesn't really leave many options open as far as help or giving back goes. People are being TOLD to beg? See I didn't know that, I've learned something new today.

People rejecting Conservatism and Liberalism are marginalized regardless of color. -- exactly and you think that is ok. something is wrong with a person who is okay with a two tier branded system proclaiming either U side with me or I brand you as the worst.

"And you think that is ok"....nope, but thanks for assuming.

(in other words, none.) Dont rewrite the question. Your video cited rappers, that is why I quoted him Wondering how much of his video did you truly like or was it just a generalize thing? The guy in the video you posted IMO got your respect because he denounced those you denounce, so I went in-depth on what he said- rappers & athletes...Not my heroes either, just be careful posting clips like that- I pay attention to every word. I asked you -what black leaders, not rappers or athletes. just like every trump supporter- there are none.
I mean surely there are famous African-Americans I respect, but I personally am not as impacted by them as I am by my fellow citizens.

( Again: I did not ask if you were impacted I asked who do you respect that doesn't acquiesce to what you believe in... ) I don't have to agree with them politically at all, respect is not a political issue for me.

"claiming blacks have to be lock step with Dems is a conservative narrative" .."If you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" - Joe Biden Democrat Presidential Nominee.

So that's a conservative narrative ya say?

Marcellus Wiley explained a side of the Colin Kaepernick saga that most people don't bother to pay attention to or are even aware of. A side which explains a great deal of what motivates Mr. Kaepernick and I'm afraid it's not 100% pure goodwill. Marcellus Wiley is not someone I agree with politically, however I respect his talents not only as an athlete but a man who is attempting to best help his community in the manner he sees fit and I found his take interesting and different, he is able to verbalize what others either aren't able to say or willing to say.

Black leaders I respect: Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Bill Strickland, Jim Brown, Allen West, David Goggins. I am ABSOLUTELY certain those won't meet whatever criteria I'm supposed to meet because that isn't the goal of the question.

Unless you address a post to me, it will be quite difficult to respond. IMO explaining to you is futile. I Just did a casual peruse on the times you have stated words like this: Ok, explain to me. or OK, well why is it then..
listed below & notice the majority of topics are always political, partisan, not boxing, you're fair there. Not music, just topics on ideology.

I didnt do a full search on how many times you answer a question with another question. The point for showing you this is to give you an opportunity to prove once in your Saddo Boxing life, have you ever had something explained to you and accepted it? See if you can't find one by the year 2020, why waste my time being the 30,449th time you wrote to someone "well answer me this? only to read the same ending, again.

Then why fucking bother @SlimTrae? I'm fair in boxing am I? I'm just as opinionated there as I am here but this draws IRE the way an opinion in boxing or music does not.

I'm so sorry I expect people I debate to be able to explain themselves, my bad. I ask questions for clarification and in order to educate myself on someone else's perspective. Responses may not sway me, I know my responses probably don't change your reasoning either and yet here I am responding. I accept your views for what they are YOUR VIEWS. And we've had ourselves a little debate and it's fine if your mind isn't changed and my mind isn't changed, that's ok...the discussion is the important part. It's no different than boxing or music, perhaps more personal to some people.