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    Default Re: John Lewis, civil rights icon, has died at 80

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    If you were a level-headed adult and were to ask the same question, I'd say he was a major influence in the civil rights movement and a presence in Congress that served to remind people of the importance of racial relations.[/COLOR][/B]
    You keep on insisting that John Lewis was a titan in the progress for black people and in congress.

    OK. Show me some evidence.

    You haven't really thought this through .......have you ?

    He was a black man who refused to be a public advocate for black people. A congressman introduces bills and resolutions, offer amendments and serve on committees.

    What bills did he do for black people ? What resolutions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    ...knowing you'll never alter your extremist views on race.
    I don't have extremist views on race.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Hmm..... saying over and over that EVERY WHITE PERSON ON EARTH IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST is extremist. Sooo... there's that.
    There is nothing extreme about that.

    All white people raised in a society where racism has been (and still is) so prevalent, will have soaked up elements of racist thinking. So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority and domination have been historically placed will have soaked up some of that conditioning. As I've said before if they can condition people to to believe to that certain brands of paper to wash your ass are superior to others then they can just as easily do that with race.

    Just because you called yourself after a black boxer "Felix Trindad" doesn't mean anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    you can't fathom that some one that does not see the world the way you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    What.... that there might be some white people out there who are NOT white supremacists and who abhor racism as much as you do? Yeah... you goddamn right. We DON'T see the world the same way.
    Just because some white people say they abhor racism doesn't mean they are gonna do anything about it.

    The truth is blacks imagine little. Discrimination in hiring, housing and education has been well documented. The government should take forceful action to end it as it goes against the value of equal opportunity for all regardless of race.

    I've never met a white person who talks like that.

    At best they will admit to discrimination but then discount its effects. Or they will say they believe in equality of opportunity but then find reasons to oppose any policy with the teeth to achieve it.

    How come these so called good white folk are never in the courtroom ? They are no where to be seen when another cop walks free for killing a black person.

    I don't see white Brazilians angry at the wretched condition black Brazilians are living in.
    I don't see white Columbians angry at the wretched condition black Columbians are living in.

    All over S.America black people are getting shot and killed by the police like it's call of duty. White Latinos aren't doing anything to stop that.

    So tell me were are all these good white folk who you say abhor racism when that sh*t goes down ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Of the 2000 hate groups less than 1% are based on Black hate towards whites and over 90% are based on whites hating blacks. Go figure.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Yeah? And your point? Nobody here is arguing that there are more black groups hating whites than the other way around. "Deflection", I think that's called. Stick to the point.
    You need to improve your reading skills.

    I said there are more groups of whites hating black people not blacks groups hating whites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Black people (generally) don't care how white people think. Black people care about what white people do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Au contraire. Blacks care very much about what white people think
    OK. So you are an expert on how black people think ? So what qualifies you to be expert on what goes on in black people's minds ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    .... because what white people THINK eventually govern what they DO and HOW and WHY they do it. A bit nuanced, I know..... but try and keep up.
    But in Europe and America black people know how white people think far more that the other way around.

    Why ?

    Because in Europe and America black people deal and interact with white people far more than white people interact with black people. We know how white people and non black people think of black people. We focus on what whites do

    George Floyds protests were about what white people do.

    For one - White people have the loudest stereo. So they control what is seen as the truth. The BBC, CNN, New York Times, The Wikipedia, Hollywood, Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge, Penguin books, Google, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, scientific journals, museums.

    Less than 22% of the world is white.
    Less than 11% of the world is white and male.
    Less than 2.3% of the world is white, male and speaks English.

    Yet they run they run nearly all the main bits of the Global Talking Machine. So black people don't have a counter media system to go against that and change their thinking. There are books, films, blogs websites, speakers on racism. That has made little impact on the minds of white people as far as racism is concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Example: A white person who is FORCED to accept employment quotas in his company can still THINK as a racist asshole and deny blacks at every opportunity.
    There's no company that's forced to hire black pppl. That's just a common white supremacist talking point. I'm pretty sure you know that a white person with a criminal record is more likely to get the job than a black people who is totally clean

    I'm pretty sure you know this.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    A white person who GENUINELY thinks every man on Earth deserves the same rights and opportunities does NOT NEED superficial quotas to do the right thing. In fact, he can NOT COMPLY with the quotas a any given time because maybe that month there weren't enough QUALIFIED black candidates..... but 6 months down the road he could have DOUBLE THE QUOTA not because he's forced to hire blacks..... but because he found a bunch of qualified black candidates.
    Racism towards black people in employment is rife and I'm pretty sure it's done by people who would think "every man on earth deserves the same rights"

    Racism makes you blind to racism and not notice.

    Blacks have twice the unemployment rate of whites? "There must be something wrong with blacks"
    Whites live in neighbourhoods that are over 90% white? "It's natural to want to live with one’s own"
    Black men in prison ? "Stats show that black people commit most crimes"

    Even before you get a job, the system is set up so black people struggle to qualify for that job because whites can say anything to applying black students "your application was late" "it got lost" "We don’t like your essay"............. ANYTHING.

    Our black ass is not getting in - No matter what.

    They reserve over 60% of seats for white students at most schools, graduate and undergraduate and then about 10-20% for Asians and Indians.

    And even with all that advantage whites cheat all the time.

    There was a scandal were at least 33 rich white people were buying admission for their children into America's most prestigious universities.
    The ringleader paid tens of millions of dollars to ensure admission for his clients' children.

    They're letting dumb-ass white students in there all day because of their fathers or uncles. Most blacks applying could run circles around them academically but they would never ever be admitted.

    We're taking no one's spots in education or employment trust me.

    You have a legacy and being a legacy only works if you have a trust fund and your parents have been donating a good % of their annual salary to the school or your dad holds political office or your parents are fortune 500 CEOs, COOs, CFOs or CAOs. Anyone else, it's still a crap shot.

    Blaming the handful of black people that get in is ridiculous. More Black Americans are becoming doctors (despite the obstacles set for black people) and non-blacks hate to see a black person who is superior to them in anything and become bitter and jealous.
    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 07-25-2020 at 08:57 PM.

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