Today in Trump

[El Kabong]

What part of if an actual crime is committed local and State are there to and need to address it don't you get. And not sure why we'd be relying on pesky feds to be inserting themselves and patrolling City streets rather than just "guard muh Federal Courthouse" all of the sudden. They're not invited, not requested and just serving as Presidential prop pieces. You're cool with a President arbitrarily flooding in untrained anonymous Federal agents as he sees fit while ignoring all State officials and local law enforcement. All of whom are from the opposing political party. Ordering the same to gas clearly peaceful protesters in front of the WH and shield bashing their to clear paths for photo ops. No questions asked, no descent attempted. Cool. I get it. At the State or Fed level regardless, to approach legitimate protesters under the crutch of declaring all protesters on mass as 'violent terrorist rioters' is simply licking Trumps pre set plate clean. You've married looters with looooong overdue legitimate protests completely. It's a lie. There are great people speaking generational truth right now. Amazingly you don't have to totally agree with someone's political affiliations, opinion on societal issue or demand for justice to first defend their right to raise a voice when those in power..State AND Federal have abused their authority. That's a massive part of what has kept this experiment intact thus far.

The Democrat mayors are not only allowing this unrest to happen, they are actively encouraging it. Who controls the police in these cities? Who has the biggest pull in regards to state politics? The big cities and the big city mayors....all of them are DEMOCRATS. All of them see some sort of benefit in allowing/fomenting/exacerbating this kind of unrest. It's my belief that this will bite them in the ass

If the city and state police don't do their jobs then the Feds get called in. Trump has called for the National Guard to be utilized and rightfully so. The National Guard helped desegregate the South when local law enforcement were being overzealous with their tactics. So when the local LEO's aren't allowed or aren't of a mind to "fight crime" then I'm sorry someone needs to do the job or else you'll get something far worse and I believe you are well aware of that being a possibility.

DHS & ICE aren't "untrained" far from it.

Ah the photo op narrative ....AG Barr addressed that, now you might see Barr as Trump's lapdog, I think when it comes to law and order the AG is kind of out there on his own else we would have seen massive arrests already due to the hoax about Russia collusion and everything involved with that. Don't get me wrong, I think those are still coming, but I don't think Trump is dumb enough to assume that people would just accept the indictments coming from him or AG Barr without a metric shit ton of evidence and hard facts. Anyway, that's a discussion for a different day. The President went to visit a historic church which was burned during the "peaceful protests" and when the law enforcement agencies were escorting the President to that church they asked nicely for the protesters to move, they were met with PHYSICAL resistance in the form of projectiles and violence and then those people were rousted from the path....or would you have a President (any President mind you) walk through that? Would that be safe?

I believe the crux of our disagreement here is on the discernment between PROTESTERS and RIOTERS....my belief is that the Protests have been co-opted by violent anarchists. That isn't to say protests aren't happening or shouldn't happen it's to say that this is how the rioting and looting has happened, it's been under the guise of "It's just a protest" and from that protest agitators (who know full well what they are doing and they ARE organized) create havoc....not to mention the how many prisoners have been released recently due to COVID?


I believe Democrat Mayors COULD control this chaos, I believe they don't WANT to control this chaos as they think it makes Trump look bad. I also think they've misread the room.


I don't mean you any insult in strongly disagreeing with you Spicoli. I imagine that we are both quite tired of how things have been going and we simply see the problem stemming from two different sources. I also think we would both like a return to "normal" whatever that is these days....but that's what I think.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

NO, no, I believe the crux of that disagreement there is a chasm of unimaginable dimensions.

[El Kabong]

NO, no, I believe the crux of that disagreement there is a chasm of unimaginable dimensions.

[El Kabong]

Joe Biden has chosen Kamala Harris as his running mate/VP selection. That is all.

[TitoFan]

Oh no he di'ent!

[SlimTrae]

You should really read up on "The Lincoln Project" Slim....those are the kinds of Republicans who are acceptable to the corporate media and Democrats. I won't say "far left" because only the far left is acceptable to those goons and thugs.

The Lincoln Project is a kin to King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table if those knights were afflicted with tertiary syphilis and other maladies which impact thought and cognition. The reason they are welcomed by the Corporate Media and Democrats is because they are "Republicans who know their place" they are perennial losers, they are wimpy little idiots and drooling imbeciles.

Steve Schmidt is the drooling imbecile, Rick Wilson is the perennial loser, and well take your pick of the wimpy little idiots.


When was the last time ANY of those people were involved in a winning campaign? They can't win primaries, they can't win generals, they still need to make money....hmmm how best to do that? Oh I know we'll be turncoat Republicans always harassing and haranguing for ever more "moderate" proposals meaning they cede their ground all too easy....anyone want to be represented by that? Not I. Probably not you either. They are no different than CNN "Conservative" Ana Navarro or WaPo "Conservative" Jennifer Rubin....they're not Republican in any way shape manner or form and they would NEVER support strong Republican leadership and here's the kicker...Trump isn't even all that strong of a Republican himself, he's about as middle of the road as you can get policywise....now his attitude and demeanor might leave something to be desired, but that's who he is as a person he's brash, he's an asshole at times, but he gets shit done and he pisses off all the right people as far as I'm concerned.

goons and thugs.



but hey take my opinion or leave it

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...trategist-self

I gave facts- of Republicans across the country, small and large against Trump and you IMO cherry picked the one -you felt you could dispute (The Lincoln Project) while ignoring all the rest of the posts , videos and links.
But hey! At least in that reagard...you are consistent!

Label them instead as:
a kin to King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table if those knights were afflicted with tertiary syphilis and other maladies
goons and thugs
drooling imbecile,
perennial loser,
wimpy little idiots.
they're not Republican in any way shape manner or form (says who? you? A Trump Supporter?

Well who is left to be called a Republican? Other than Trump or one who agrees with him? Defends him?

but he gets shit done (not Health care, not a wall, not repealing common core, not draining wall street, not stopping Kushner, Fannie & Freddi from $800 million money grab, not balancing budget, not eliminating deficits, not labeling china as a currency manipulator, not investigating crooked Hillary, not bringing troops back home, not stopping the rise of private contractors, not repealing fag marriage, not repealing Row V Wade, not unifying the country, not stopping Jun Un from popping off rockets, not a damn thang.) that is why I posted videos of common Americans who all give their reasons why they arent voting for him, to them and me included.

In other words this wasnt a Lincoln Project response it was a multi-post from me listing many...out those- you chose one & turned it into a topic
Well, who is left to be called a Republican? Other than Trump or one who agrees with him? Defends him?

I was simply giving the world an idea that no matter who stands against Trump- they will be labeled.
Well, who is left to be called a Republican? Other than Trump or one who agrees with him? Defends him?

I just said you should read up about them....I never accused you of supporting them. I would imagine had you known of who they were and what they've done in the past that you probably wouldn't even have posted anything about them. That was my only assumption and you didn't really answer that.

Who is there left to be a Republican? Well the people supporting Trump actively and the people who are Republicans who support other Republicans but who also aren't actively supporting Biden. The Lincoln Project contain neither. Hope that answers the question for you.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

Appreciate it, but no need to apologize, IMO it is a similar scenario of all our interactions politically speaking- which is an issue of a contrast in perspectives.

Mines is that I didn't put up a video about them, it was a video by them. They don't speak, state their names or who to vote for.
I made an attempt to state that for those who won't watch it- by saying this:
There is the Lincoln Project.
[I]This is a 1:38 video showing Trump supporters as in news anchors, talkshow hosts, bloggers...so please just imagine listening to these characters tell you how fake corona is, how it is a democratic hoax...and THIS WILL HELP YOU TO SEE WHY so many continue to down play it.

Your perspective appears to state if i knew about them individually, I should conclude they are a kin to King Arthur's Knights afflicted with tertiary syphilis and other maladies-so no need to open the video, denounce them. Followed up by questioning why I didn't answer to ANY of those people were involved in a winning campaign? They can't win primaries, they can't win generals, aka turncoat Republicans

I didn't answer because -1st of all, I apologize, I don't understand how that relates to what I posted and why I posted
I began by
#1. posting about 15 videos from common Americans
https://rvat.org/

There are thousands of common people giving testimony on their lives as Republicans and why they aren't voting for him. I achieved my goal to tell the world that tunes in here: look at common people who voted for him and how they feel since.

#2. I posted a few videos of who is voting for Trump like Falwell Jr, the dude who is over a Christian school with his underwear showing next to a woman on a yacht with a drink in his hand- that he claims is black water prop. Another goal met- to show what (kind) of Christians vote for him -by their actions and or behavior. I backed that up with those 2 pudgy piglets (gotta get my labels in too haha) who I claim are not respected, but tolerated- kicked off FOX and still support Trump.
#3, I followed up with their reasoning ranging from him sending troops to Arabia for cash, sending more troops overseas just on the foreign policy tip backed by links of veterans against Trump, for starters!

Then I stated the NeverTrump Movement, followed by the letter from the 50 Former Nationals Security advisors, but didnt provide links or videos, I showed the Lincoln Project video- because it is nothing but the words of Trump supporters who have power in the right wing media. So I don't trip on who made the video, unless they inject themselves in it, but they didn't.

I provided links to show the contrast in how FOX went from fake to we have long warned about it with links I will repost:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ts-coronavirus
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nat...ident-trillion
https://commondefense.us/
https://bipartisanreport.com/2020/08...ge-to-america/
https://bipartisanreport.com/2020/07...t-trump-video/
Their headlines:
*Republican Voters Against Trump
*GOP Voting Veterans Defect & Release Anti-Trump Message To America
*U.S. Combat Veterans Join Together To Defeat Trump (VIDEO)
Then i attempted to end it by stating to the world all of these people who are not voting for Trump will be labeled, not because of their history, rather because of one thing only_ They don't want Trump in office any longer.

Last I view Lincoln Project as a group Founded: Dec 17, 2019, for the same purpose as NeverTrump Movement, or the 50 former NSA that wrote a letter to RNC asking to reconsider Trump as their nominee.


And I won't say you accused me of supporting Lincoln, rather pointing out what I claimed a Trumper would do: find reason to denounce every person against Trump. So in fact I'm cool with what you wrote, it was not taken personally and most of all- it was what I expected! LMAO!

and the people who are Republicans who support other Republicans but who also aren't actively supporting Biden. <<<I can accept that!

[SlimTrae]

Joe Biden has chosen Kamala Harris as his running mate/VP selection. That is all.

Hey! If one wants to dig a hole, dig one helluva hole.

[El Kabong]

Slim, I'm not going to watch all of those videos I don't have the time to. I know some people don't like Trump, I myself wasn't really a W fan or a Romney fan, I used to like McCain before I saw what a political turncoat he was...I still voted for all those people, WHY? Because A) There was no viable 3rd option and B ) I don't support ANY Democrat policies I don't like their vision for the future of this county and I'm not a Democrat and at this rate I never will be.

So you take that, compare and contrast to your folks who consider themselves Republican but who will not only NOT vote Trump they'll ACTIVELY support Joe Biden. In my view they're no longer Republicans. If I had the time to go down the list for each of these individual voters I would.

#1 "Common Americans" as found by Bill Kristol's PAC. That's fine, if they think they're still Republicans fiiiine, I don't think helping Biden get elected qualifies, but that's my own opinion and they're entitled to their's.

#2 Do SOME people assume Trump's religious dedication? Surely. I am not one of them. I personally don't have a care in the world for Falwell or his father.

#3 Those voters are free to vote for whomever they see fit to. Maybe they had their reasons for voting for Trump in 2016 (I'd like to know what those were) and maybe they're just lying/actors. As for the 50 NSA folks...yeah I'd imagine they wouldn't want Trump in office again as he's digging deeper on Russiagate and hopefully eventually people will serve hard time for the bullshit they pulled.

I'm glad we could hammer out the miscommunication between us amicably.




After picking Harris as a VP/running mate....whew, I am not so certain Biden stands a chance. Bill Kristol from the "rvat PAC" you listed has been floating the idea that Biden should NOT debate Trump. Rick Wilson's response to Kamala being selected was and I quote from his twitter "OK, FINE." ...not a ringing endorsement.

Trump will win, it'll be a landslide, and shit may really start hitting the fan, but we'll see. I hope Democrats accept defeat with a bit more grace this time.

[SlimTrae]

Slim, I'm not going to watch all of those videos I don't have the time to. .

No one has that amount of time, there are thousands of former Trump supporters on that one site alone.

[SlimTrae]

#3 Those voters are free to vote for whomever they see fit to. Maybe they had their reasons for voting for Trump in 2016 (I'd like to know what those were) and maybe they're just lying/actors..

Give a few some views, and they all tell it based on what he campaigned on, budget, troops, but we've gone through the mill. One site is just common people, another one is purely veterans, so they are a bit easier to determine their reason as to acting on a website not sanctioned, subsidized by anyone or group brings weight to the frustration of these people- teetering 26 trillion is somethin Trump stated- if we go past 20 trillion, well 26T by a man who has many campaign promises to be revisited.

[El Kabong]

Slim, I'm not going to watch all of those videos I don't have the time to. .

No one has that amount of time, there are thousands of former Trump supporters on that one site alone.

Alleged Trump supporters.....but perhaps I'm being too cynical. Come November we will see.

#3 Those voters are free to vote for whomever they see fit to. Maybe they had their reasons for voting for Trump in 2016 (I'd like to know what those were) and maybe they're just lying/actors..

Give a few some views, and they all tell it based on what he campaigned on, budget, troops, but we've gone through the mill. One site is just common people, another one is purely veterans, so they are a bit easier to determine their reason as to acting on a website not sanctioned, subsidized by anyone or group brings weight to the frustration of these people- teetering 26 trillion is somethin Trump stated- if we go past 20 trillion, well 26T by a man who has many campaign promises to be revisited.

Well I for one don't buy ANYONE not voting for Trump based on his military decisions. You look at what we were told would happen if he was elected vs what HAS happened and it's night and day WW3 hasn't happened, nuclear war hasn't happened. Trump gave a red line to Russia in Syria, they stepped over and unlike Obama Trump kept his word...he hit them hard and then let the dust settle and allowed them to get up off the canvas to see if they wanted more, they didn't. He allowed his generals to decimate ISIS as opposed to Obama just allowing them to grow. He has hit Russia with sanctions, he's been hard on North Korea while at the same time not pinning them in a corner where war was their only option out, he kept us out of being dragged into Syria bar the missile strike after the red line had been crossed. He has been very tough on Iran and iced their A#1 chief exporter of terrorism. He has gotten NATO nations to own up to their agreements and fork over the cash and personnel....I guess that pisses some of those nations off but hey more of our soldiers defend their countries so they SHOULD pay up or man up especially if Russia is so bellicose and terrorizing everyone. Trump has been firm with China which is nice for a change.


Surely there has been a lot of spending by Trump, this is not the most pressing issue at present for me. The most pressing issue are politicians selling this country out to China and other nations, we're losing our sovereign status to Globalist plutocrats and I'm not so much in favor of that. I'm not in favor of people trying to pass Universal Healthcare and all the welfare policies they can enact AND open the floodgates on immigration, no, it's one or the other it can't be both. Logic, common sense, reason, say you can't have both.


If you can't see that Trump has hit a vein of National pride in certain areas then I don't know what to tell you. He has people calling for building HERE, investing HERE, not shipping jobs willy nilly to China or Mexico or wherever....I don't know where you're from but that speaks to people where I'm from. The people who worked in mills and furniture, they've been overlooked for too long and they're dying for a little shot at breathing life into their towns again. Why is that important? Well if we don't look after ourselves then what can we offer refugees? What can we offer nations who need our strength? What can we offer our neighbors and friends? We're not a people who wish to share the basement of poverty and Trump has hit that.....Michael Moore, one of the biggest liberals out there said it....



It's about 5 minutes, but it tells you why Trump resonates

[Beanz]

El Kabong. What you have said for years now is


"Fuck everyone else listen to me."

You are still doing it. You might as well of shown Slim the middle finger. You can't have a conversation. You cant debate. You can't reason or show any kind of common sense because it is just one big long diatribe from you about how you are never going to change or admit anyone has a right to an opinion, let alone a chance of seeing things with a bit more maturity and levity.


You used to love taking the piss out of Brock, claiming he was wearing a tin foil hat, and yet here you have descended into your own madness, insisting anyone that has changed their mind on Trump, (despite the evidence) must be an actor or a traitor when you are insane enough now to insist that corruption and double dealing is and always has been a purely democratic disease, as though Trump was some kind of shiny coin in a cesspit.

Absolutely full on mental.

[Beanz]

[NoSavingByTheBell]

So true. Now he is Mr. Tinfoil Hat/Smoking Jacket

[El Kabong]

El Kabong. What you have said for years now is


"Fuck everyone else listen to me."

You are still doing it. You might as well of shown Slim the middle finger. You can't have a conversation. You cant debate. You can't reason or show any kind of common sense because it is just one big long diatribe from you about how you are never going to change or admit anyone has a right to an opinion, let alone a chance of seeing things with a bit more maturity and levity.


You used to love taking the piss out of Brock, claiming he was wearing a tin foil hat, and yet here you have descended into your own madness, insisting anyone that has changed their mind on Trump, (despite the evidence) must be an actor or a traitor when you are insane enough now to insist that corruption and double dealing is and always has been a purely democratic disease, as though Trump was some kind of shiny coin in a cesspit.

Absolutely full on mental.

Gaslight away little Beanz... " You might as well of shown Slim the middle finger.".....did I? Was I mean? @SlimTrae did you take offense? If you did please do tell me. I mean I assume Slim is a grown man and can handle himself which he has done and here YOU are Beanz (I won't @ mention you because I know that hurts your feelings) and you're doing what besides attempt to stir shit up between Slim & I. I'm fine with Slim, we disagree but respectfully so. I state my case, he states his, sometimes we talk past each other but we work it out, I'm capable of that HE is capable of that, you? Not so much.



"You used to love taking the piss out of Brock".....and look at you now....aren't you two cozy? Who ever would have thought?


You're a special one Beanz