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Tyson as youngest champ is one thing, but the fact that he unified it solidifies the record as legit. While each champ wasn't world class but decent, Tyson in stride annihilated them all.


Holyfield is what? 4 time HW champ, not that impressive if he couldn't sustain his rule. And this is coming from a Holyfield fan. It kind of insinuates that he was an inconsistent champ.
That is why Evander should not be on an all time heavyweight champions list. He lost to Moorer !!!!!!!!!
Blaspheme . Could also be an indicator that he fought the very best of his era, sometimes twice. Whatever health situation he had going on, the fact the Moorer 2nd round was scored 10-10 with KD handing Moorer the belts was asinine. And he bounced him like a ping pong ball in rematch.
In his peak years Evander beat an overweight Buster, nearly knocked out by Bert Cooper, struggled with old Foreman/Holmes and loses to Bowe. Not an impressive reign to be considered a great heavyweight champion.
Hey at least you didn't start with he's just a blown up cruiserweight yadda yadda . I'm coming at the question on whole, rated a great heavyweight trinkets aside. Bit backwards to validate the rotating dime a dozen line of trinkets but disregard a fighters complete body of work and history regarding the determination of 'a great'. Holyfield beat who was immediately put in front of him and was could be required to do nothing more after Tyson blew defining showdowns with him not once but twice. He picked up the pieces and soldiered on. Old or young both geezers earned their shots and Holyfield is gonna Holyfield..fight it out..but I'd hardly say he struggled to the point of not being thoroughly in control. And Cooper..come on man, Cooper on his best of best nights stands a chance to ding anyone going today. The late replacement for a late replacement for Holyfields homecoming. Evander got caught one or two whistlers and proceeded to batter Bert for his trouble. Welcome to the world of heavyweight bomb throwers. Some 'great champs' don't even recover. Sometimes they just get caught and flat ktfo .
Everything you say is true. Holyfield was a great, if not the greatest Cruiserweight ever and he could only beat what was in front of him as a champ but to list him as an ATG at heavyweight you need a better record than what he achieved. He is far too inconsistent to be considered up there with the true greats like Ali, Louis and Holmes.

That is not to say he could not give them hell if he fought them but that is another subject altogether.