Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Roy Jones Jr, who ranks higher all-time?

Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
Going by emotions, I pick Pac. But if I go by what was proven- How I think fans 50 years or more would judge- I think basic mathematics. What did they accomplish.
RJJ turned pro in 1989
Won IBF middleweight title in 1993, 4 years after turning pro.
Won IBF super middleweight title in 1994 over Boxing's then ranked #1 P4P fighter James Toney.
Lost WBC light heavyweight title shot, then won it in 1997.
1998 he became the WBC & WBA light heavyweight champ.
1999 he became the WBC, WBA & IBF light heavyweight champ.
2000 he became the WBC ,WBA, IBF & IBO light heavyweight champ.
After such a house cleaning in the LHW division he decided to even grab all major & minor belts in 2002 when he retained/gained WBA, WBC, IBF, IBO, WBF & IBA light heavyweight titles.
In 2003 he wins the pinnacle of Boxing's titles: Heavyweight champ.
It would take 14 years before he lost his 2nd fight.
Feel free to place Pac's record as a champ and or accomplishments. It doesn't compare.
In Pac's prime he was tested against JMM to a draw (I had him winning), got out-boxed by Morales in their 1st fight & busted/bloodied up to boot. Had been stopped twice before he hit age 30. 2 draws before age 30. ( I think they were unfair draws, but also think RJJ DQ was unfair) My resolve is shit happens.
Whereas Roy had no competitors in his youth, and he took on the #1 P4P fighter to win the SMW (albeit Toney fucked up by binge eating in between fights)
Neither ranks in my top 10.
RJJ ranks in my Top 20, Pac does not, but I don't see it as a bad thing for those who do put Pac in their top 20. Top 10, hell naw, I got a problem with that.
Who are your top 20 as I would struggle to not have Roy Jones in there?
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