
Originally Posted by
wacko3205

Originally Posted by
Violent Demise

Originally Posted by
miles

Originally Posted by
Preme

Originally Posted by
AdamGB
As much as I hate to say it, STVD isn't saying that Calzaghe is bad...
Just that he doesn't have a lot of high caliber opponents on his record, wether or not it's because he was being ducked or FW couldn't/wouldn't make these fights is open to speculation.
calzaghe doesn't? and what hopkins does? tito/de la hoya both LIGHT middles at best, ok geln johnson good fighter. um oh tarver yeah; with wins over people like tarver surly thats a one way ticket into the hall of fame....
Ugly but true

Let me make it uglier. Robert Allen, Morrade Hakkar, Carl Daniels, Syd Vanderpool, Andrew Council are not the best names to have defended against. Hakkar especially was embarrassing. But as bad as they may be. There nothing compare to this garbage list of fighters defended against. Evans Ashira, Mger Mkrtchian, Kabary Salem, Tocker Pudwill, Will McIntyre, Miguel Jimenez. And that's not including the last bum he faced.
Alright people...this is getting ree-gotdam-dick-ulous.
Don't start trying to take apart Hopkins record & the people that he defeated & saying Joe fought anyone close to being what Hopkins did...that is indeed silly.
Being a fan of both...I got no issues stating the facts...Joe's opposition is much lower than Bernard's.
Come on people...keep biases aside & let's be real.
wack u know i love and respect your opinion, but seriously i don't agree with that, hopkins may have 'bigger names' but for the weight devision their at neither fighter has fought anyone that stands out whos better than the other has fought...
if u dissagree, plz compare them..
now like u im abig fan of both fighters, really i loved hopkins as a fighter, but for people to constantly go on about calzaghe for having 'no one' on his record takes the piss, everythign he does and everyone he beats
the next possible calzaghe fights (saying he wins..)
Kessler - kessler becomes overrated...
winky right.. winky wasn't a SMW...
JT, overrated slightly or didn't have enough time to grow into SMW..
Clinton woods .. who gives a fk...
RJJ.. to old
Hopkins.. to old...
Now take hopkins..
De la hoya, Tito, neither was a MW, where was the calzaghe fight, where was the step up for the RJJ rematch, the James tony fight? but hopkins is regarded as this total legend! why??
after the tito fight he fought 4 nobodys, a brilliant WW and LMW de la hoya, was very unimpressive against a hoard i can't put more than 2 punches together easterman, then 2 losses (how ever conreversial) with Taylor
thing is, i can see and respect the talent hopkins had, can take into consideration things like how he wanted to prelong his career with his age without going to war - but when calzaghe is ever brought up on this board u get the same idiots everytime make stupid remarks about how "he wont travel" when hes gone out to germany and demark to fight, made it very clear he would go to the us to fight a top fighter, question of his lack of 'top fighters' whe hes beaten everyone put in front of him, called out constantly RJJ and hopkins, the ONLY fighter he didn't fight and 'could' of is glen johnson was through 'injury' i put that in ' ' coz its anyones right o question weather he used the injury as a way to duck him...
i know it may sound like i was taking a pop at hopkins, but im trying to just show how both fighters have very simular records and quality in opposition, yet one is regarded as a legend, while the other is picked apart and considerd a paper champion, and for this to constantly happen on a message board where people use the term 'general boxing fan' so often on here refering to people not ont his board, is a freaking joke IMO
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