Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
This is no joke and I remember someone telling me that "Time forgives no one." It's just as true with athletes we admire like boxers and men that become everyday heroes going to and from some job he hates to support someone he loves by driving in horrible traffic jams or seated on an iron horse reading a newspaper where some dick calling himself an honest politician promises us another load of shit that has an odor that settles on our nostrils. I am old enough to have been in the Vietnam conflict that too many people were afraid to call it what it was, a war. The protesters, the self appointed philosophers' and know-it-alls got away with murder and slandered service men in the United States no matter where they were stationed and later in recent years a leader of this nation apologizing for the United States for acting like a world police force. Our children grew lazy with technology and I can't drive anywhere without an idiot texting someone he just saw five minutes before he almost becomes a hood ornament on my automobile and has the nerve to tell me off. The British have suffered in the past few decades the slings and arrows of liberals and became referees of this doo doo involuntarily and yet whenever they speak, I listen because they have remained the anchor that keeps world civilization in check. To conclude, I remember my first twenty for hours in a country I never wanted to be in, in the first place. I was one of the many that relieved the Marines leaving Vietnam in Danang. We passed each other as they left and we boarded the helicopters(choppers) for points north. One man had something written on his helmet liner that caused me to recognize him as the first person outside my home I considered a hero. "Never have so many been fucked by so few." Take it from here folks, you know exactly what I expect you to say. It matters not whether he was the one that originally composed that quote because we all know how true it is.
Time waits for no one and forgives no one, I agree.
I am however totally incapable of comprehending how so many become politicians IMO with the sincerity to try to change things for the better, only to change themselves. Instead of championing the rights of their constituents who elect them, they become representatives of the very institutions they pledge to clean up.

I guess my point is witnessing a vetting process where the people who elect these politicians seem to differ in how they view politicians they don't elect.
One name comes to mind, reading your thoughts about Vietnam, which is Robert McNamara. It saddens me that troops were held accountable for doing their duty, while those in suits seem to be justified based on the political affiliation the voter has.

It seems our policies are rarely considered the reason for wars, end result the soldier is held accountable, it isn't right IMO.
I admit I am on the fence on previous leader whose intent may have not been to apologize to the world on behalf of the soldier, rather the policies that sent them there. But based on one's outlet of news, then a narrative can omit the original intent of sending our military -may have never been one to benefit America, rather a demographic, often businesses that can prosper when war occurs.


I wonder if that previous leader's actions you mentioned is comparable to say, the name I mentioned that went on to say" Ï think we were wrong. I think we acted with the intent of what was best for this nation, but we were wrong."
Was that apologizing to the world from your perspective? Apologizing to the people, or just an admission? I have no desire to rebut, rather just to learn how one who was old enough to see soldiers held wrongfully accountable, but not those who sent them there.
I can only watch movies depicting such treatment.
I have one relative left alive who fought in Vietnam and I have to admit, he has been so cool, I forgot that he went through it.

And if you have time or care, I'd be very interested in reading your view on the war on terror from its inception. Does the term Never have so many been fucked by so few." apply to those in Desert Storm up to today?