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    Default Re: Actors as Boxers: Champs or Chumps?

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    Ok... the question outright:

    Who in your opinion (professional actor) has done the best job of impersonating a real boxer inside the ring?

    I still think the omission of Carl Weathers was a huge oversight.
    Clearly Stallone doesn’t look like a boxer that could win a world title . But I think you’re being harsh, because isn’t it the whole point of the film? A low level guy from the street could become HW Champion of the World. That is the story , bit of a fairy tale of course.
    But think about it, if Stallone was technically decent, there wouldn’t be a story.
    Now my main beef about Stallone and Boxing centres around 2 other things.
    1. That he was inducted into the IBHOF. That is a complete joke.
    2. When he did the “Contender” series, found it totally embarrassing and cringeworthy that all these young pro boxers are sat round a lunch table hanging on his every word while he recounts stories and gives them “sage advice”, while SRL is hanging around unnoticed in the background. Totally cringe!


    Fair points. First about your #1 and #2. Wow... don't even get me started on that. "Joke" is a mild word to use regarding the IBHOF thing. Whoever first brought up that idea at the IBHOF round table should've been laughed out of the room (and then flogged). It's disrespectful to every single person inducted in the Hall of Fame.

    #2 if even worse. Stallone giving BOXING ADVICE??!! And with SRL in the room?? I'm glad I missed that. But then I was never a huge fan of "The Contender" in the first place.

    Now on to Stallone. Harsh? Maybe. But even in 1976, they could've at least attempted to make the fight sequences just a tad more believable.

    To begin with, Stallone couldn't box his way out of a paper bag. But that's why other actors have precisely spent MONTHS training in the gym under supervision..... to make themselves more believable.

    But all this "punch me hard 100 times while I stand there WWE-style... and then miraculously I recover and punch YOU 100 times unanswered"..... is just ridiculous... even to the casual fan.

    Yeah, yeah... it's a movie about the underdog triumphing in life and all that corny stuff. But seriously... Stallone as a boxer?

    I guess by now you're probably thinking I'm not a big Stallone fan and you're probably right.

    However... I did TOTALLY enjoy First Blood... which was his other signature movie and began a parallel slew of movies, giving Stallone his two achievements in Hollywood....... Rocky and Rambo.
    I feel awkward fighting Sly’s Corner so to speak. But most of the other guys that spent months learning and making themselves more believable, were playing a real Boxer , so they had to.
    But Stallone was playing.......a Bum, a street guy. Pure fantasy.
    And if it appealed more to the purists, the series would NEVER have been the success they were.

    Burgess Meredith (R.I.P.) would be extremely proud of you.

    Ok... I'll cut Stallone some slack... although I'm still not a fan.

    However, two things:

    1. Those WWE-style punching trades used in Rocky were STILL ridiculous to even the most casual boxing fans. In real life Stallone would've been out from a mere jab from Carl Weathers.

    2. I still think Stallone was a better fit for Rambo. First Blood I re-watched many times.

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    stopped into this gym in 2018 on my way to work one day, cool place Church Street in Flatbush section...anyway for what its worth:


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    Nice... two boxers critiquing boxing movies.

    I thought they were way too kind on Rocky but hey... they're just trying to be nice. Cringed when one of them brought up Rocky in the Hall of Fame. (shudder)

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    Whoever voted for Rocky to be in the Hall of Fame (and I really need to make this clear, I am not talking about Rocky Marciano), needs their head examined.

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    Having actual boxers up against the actors certainly helps. It adds a bit of authenticity to it and the fight scenes play out better. Which just goes to show how great Carl Weathers was as Creed. OK clearly an athletically gifted bloke, but not a boxer. He looked a million dollars in the ring and looked every bit the Ali that he was supposed to be. I don't care what anyone says. No man has ever worn a bra top like Creed in Rocky III.
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    Default Re: Actors as Boxers: Champs or Chumps?

    James Marshall - Gladiator

    Stephen Dorff - The Power of One

    Should be included

    Will Smith top for me
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    Default Re: Actors as Boxers: Champs or Chumps?

    I'm amazed none of you have mentioned Paul Newman in the Rocky Graziano movie "Somebody up there likes me"
    Top film, top acting, Brilliant and true story.
    You can find it free online if you search around 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    I'm amazed none of you have mentioned Paul Newman in the Rocky Graziano movie "Somebody up there likes me"
    Top film, top acting, Brilliant and true story.
    You can find it free online if you search around 😎


    Actually, that one was on the list (see link) but I excluded it for two reasons. One is that it's such an old movie I figured most on here hadn't seen it. (Not everyone is into old classics). But the biggest reason is that boxing movie fight scenes tend to get worse and more fake looking the further back you go. And since the thread is about actors as boxers, I figured it wasn't even worth giving ol' Paul Newman a mention.

    But you're right... top film, top acting (Newman was brilliant in all his roles), and a true story. Good to see someone appreciates ancient movies like that.

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    Default Re: Actors as Boxers: Champs or Chumps?

    I've always had an issue with black and white films and find them difficult to watch.....

    I will have a look for this one though.

    I've just remembered another one where the heavyweight champion get sents to jail and a mob boss inside arranges for him to fight the in house prison champ (Wesley Snipes). Obviously this was made with an idea on teh back of Tyson's troubles in the 90s.

    I'll have to look that up too and see if it's available to rewatch - wasn't bad from what I recall.
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