Remedial Math for Boxers

[ruthless rocco]

I think it goes to show that Loma is an entitled bitch.
Like trying to win a title in his 2nd fight, and getting schooled by a crude veteran.

[armin]

Margarito Williams went almost the same way marg slept 6 rounds win next 5 lost the 12th for clear 7 5 loss of I remember

[Fenster]

Dozens and dozens of fans/boxers/pundits/journos scored the 2nd, 6th and 7th rounds for Loma. Scoring is all in the eye of the beholder.

[TitoFan]

Source?

"Dozens and dozens" is a lot of people.

I tried but couldn't find like in the past where you could see how different boxing experts had scored a fight.

If push came to shove, I could see the 7th. But before that? Don't see how anyone could give Loma a round when he did absolutely zilch.

Even with Rounds 1 through 6, and then 12, Lopez takes a narrow victory.

Loma miscalculated... plain and simple.

[Fenster]

Through social media and Youtube boxing channels/community there are thousands of comments - fighters/journos/fans. My point is not Teo lost but if you break it down to specific rounds then not everyone reached Teo winning the same way. This is the exact same for every fight scored.

My point is the way boxing is scored is really flawed. It lends itself to all the "robberies" and "terrible" cards we see "every" fight.

We didn't need rd-by-rd scoring to know Teo won this fight. He looked in control for the majority and was the stronger throughout. However, break it down to rounds won and 6-6 is perfectly reasonable using the scorecards of people who believe Teo won 9-3 or 8-4 or 7-5 as not everyone reached their score the same way.

[TitoFan]

Through social media and Youtube boxing channels/community there are thousands of comments - fighters/journos/fans. My point is not Teo lost but if you break it down to specific rounds then not everyone reached Teo winning the same way. This is the exact same for every fight scored.

My point is the way boxing is scored is really flawed. It lends itself to all the "robberies" and "terrible" cards we see "every" fight.

We didn't need rd-by-rd scoring to know Teo won this fight. He looked in control for the majority and was the stronger throughout. However, break it down to rounds won and 6-6 is perfectly reasonable using the scorecards of people who believe Teo won 9-3 or 8-4 or 7-5 as not everyone reached their score the same way.

The way boxing is scored is flawed, I think most of us agree. I also think the fight wasn't as wide as one of the scorecards reflected. But one way scoring is flawed is because of the very reason judges for trials are screened in an effort to get them as unbiased as possible. If a judge goes in there with the mentality that any flurry or combination by let's say Loma, in this case, is enough to win him the round... then that's a judge given to flawed scoring right there. I thought (IMO) that Loma did absolutely zilch for at least 6 rounds. A judge may have given him the 2nd... let's say. But why? Replay the round and you'll find Loma continuing his "study" of Lopez, who continued coming forward and throwing the vast majority of punches in the round, whether a large portion of them connected or not.

Round 7 is where Loma probably figured out (duh) that he was losing the fight. Who won that round is definitely (again) a matter of personal opinion, based on what factors you use to score a round. Personally... I still gave it to Lopez. Rounds 8 through 11 were clear Loma rounds for me. Had Round 12 been a clear Loma round... we would've had a full-fledged controversy on our hands, no matter who the decision favored.

But yeah... the way boxing is scored is fundamentally flawed. I would offer a few "mistakes" judges tend to make.

1. Many don't view rounds in a vacuum. In other words... if so-and-so has won every single round from the beginning of the fight, and the other guy somehow steals a round... some judges will ignore that and stay with the "momentum."

2. Bias. Let's face it... we all have it to a certain extent. But judges are supposed to be as unbiased as possible, and just score what's going on in front of them. A tall order, but something that would make judging more fair and competent.

3. Differences in what judges consider important. Some favor the aggressive guy who continuously comes forward, disregarding number of punches connected. Some get swayed by pretty-looking flurries... regardless of whether they actually connected or not. Yet others can't seem to keep track of time. One guy dominates for 2 and a half minutes... but the last 30 seconds go to the other guy. Some judges forget the round was 3 minutes.


Anyway, yeah... I think most will agree Teo won the fight. Of course I've seen plenty of "experts" in Facebook claiming Loma was robbed.

[powerpuncher]

I’ll still go on the record saying that 6-6 is more ridiculous than 11-1