Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
Titofan.

I offered to not be there so that you could partake and then you insisted it was not me stopping you from joining.

Then it turns out that all along actually it was me, but you did not want to admit that.

Why?

That is a bit odd.

At the end of the day we have all stepped over the line and let's be honest, you are hardly exempt from that.

I am happy to drop it, but you seem so addicted to the hostilities that you are turning down the opportunity for a meet up that you have for years said you would enjoy.

You want to give it to me both barrels. I don't give a shit. If it will make you feel better then Fire away.

Don't punish yourself to make a point though.

The worst that can happen is that one of us leaves the meeting.

It is a crying shame that Gandalf and El KaBong and many other Saddo veterans can't swallow their pride a bit and at least join once for 15 minutes.

Crazy waste


The civility you're showing now is the civility you should show all the time.

The bare bones truth about my not joining the Zoom meetings is a bit of both, if it'll make things clearer.

No... I do NOT have a lot of time at the moment that I can spare at a Zoom meeting.

And no... the prospect of talking and or seeing you isn't a pleasant one, given all the insults you've hurled over the years.

That we've all stepped over the line... you're right. I've never claimed otherwise.

But one thing is stepping over the line and realizing it (even apologizing for it if need be)... and quite another is to trample the line with both feet while laughing evilly the whole time.

I don't enjoy these tits-for-tats... as I'm pretty sure you don't either, no matter how many smilies you accompany your posts with. It's our human condition.

I have brought up Lyle as an example.

He and I used to clash horribly over a great big number of topics: Trump, guns, you name it.

Somewhere along the line we both decided it wasn't worth it to keep doing that.

We're both adult men... and deserve some respect. Heated discussions are cool. Maybe even the occasional attack.

You say "you're happy to drop it." Are you though? It's not like this is the first time. You don't see me asking for the occasional "truce."

I think if you really want to normalize things with someone, you can.

If you notice I still trash Trump as much as I always have (maybe even more). Doesn't matter to me that Lyle is a big Trump fan. We argue anyway.

Anyway... I'm rambling.

I'll try to maintain my optimism that someday maybe the constant hostilities will cease.

Shit... it's not like we've all been here 6 months or so. We're pretty much all 10+ year veterans here. That should count for something.