No. The question was, is he overrated. You got the verbs around the wrong way. Lets deal in truth here.
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No. The question was, is he overrated. You got the verbs around the wrong way. Lets deal in truth here.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
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Relax Ron. I'm just fucking with you. I never really pay attention to your posts. So emotional.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
Yet you disagree without actually disagreeing with anything I said. Because you can’t. That’s an emotional action. Go ahead, try and dispute what I said or stop talking
You on the other hand said “ overrated?
I'm not quite sure how someone who is to anyone with half decent vision, a basic grasp on boxing and a fully functioning brain, an Elite level World class operator, can become overrated” of course anyone can be overrated. That is glaringly obvious. Just simply incorrect. Hyperbole, which comes from feeling, not fact. It’s silly. You know you can do better than saying something so obviously wrong so just own it.
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So you only want fact? No emotion, just cold hard facts?
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
As for currently, he’s probably underrated. Dropping to 7 by ESPN is too much. If he goes to 130 and takes the Berchelt fight and wins he’s top 3 again
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I'm not quite sure I even understand what you're talking about Ron. I never have to be honest you spout so much tripe. It's called an opinion Ron. it belong to me. It meeting or not meeting the Ron gold standard is irrelevant.
I will happily continue to post with feeling and emotion. if it's all the same to you?
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
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Ron let me say this in Ron speak so we can come to some common ground. You've never been any good at reading the feel of a post. You just get a few words stuck in your head and run with it.
Yes, anyone can be overrated. I've never denied that. When I said "I'm not quite sure how someone who is to anyone with half decent vision, a basic grasp on boxing and a fully functioning brain, an Elite level World class operator, can become overrated?" That was my own opinion and also a question on the basis of how much higher can he be rated?
I qualified it here.
"Daniel Dubois is overrated. There are people out there who think he wipes the floor with Tom Dick and Harry right now. We might find out in a few weeks that he's not even the fourth best heavy in the country."
Dubois is on the up. Saying he would beat AJ, Fury, Wilder right now, as some people have done, is overrating him. As we don't even know if he's in the top three or four in Britain just yet. See?
Loma is at the top, or hovering around it. We all know what he's about so for me, someone saying he's overrated is a bit daft and I don't understand how they draw that conclusion. Unless they're saying he's better than Ali of course which you say some have said. But to me, those are flights of fancy and not to be taken seriously.
Again! Yes it is possible to overrate anyone or anything. But in some cases it's just daft. To me. Doesn't have to be to you and that's OK.
It's like saying I don't see how Chisora can beat Usyk. Would your response be don't be silly, he could punch him really hard in the head and knock him out? Being matter of fact is your bag and you go for it. I'd rather ask questions and you know.....have discussions.
Peace Ron
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
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Teddy Atlas had him P4P no.1 over Ward and Crawford when Ward was fighting which is insane.
It’s like Top Rank Billionaire Bob Arum is so rich he has his hand in every orifice of boxing and sways these decisions.
Lomachenko is 32 years old and has a few years left in him and can easily come back and show why he has a massive following.
Lopez and Haney will give him issues so perhaps chase the Tank route for a massive money fight.
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