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    Default Re: Sometimes the hypocrisy still shocks me

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    And perhaps the moral of the story was lost on some. My state budgets the taxes on cigarettes the year before they are collected. Now he is on the radio bragging about the massive amount of revenue collected on cigarette taxes. Didn’t he want everyone to stop? So why brag about it now? That’s what I mean about hypocrisy. My state also blew all the money they got from the tobacco industry in lawsuits. It wasn’t set aside to help people quit like it was supposed to be. I have no clue how this broke out into a usually shit storm thread. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of our politicians that was all.

    It's not a shit storm. Just slapping down the forum rabid dog.

    Taxing cigarettes. Whatever your take on this, I don't see anything particularly wrong with the practice. This... "Despite a pack being near 13usd here I see people on disability checks figuring out how many packs they can buy for month and still afford food."... describes people with severe addiction. It's a sickness, which should be treated. The fact that cigarettes serve no useful purpose and is harmful to your health is bad enough. When you throw "second hand smoke" in there, it compounds the problem. Not sure from your post whether you support or are against the cigarette taxes themselves... but I see your point about the hypocrisy part of it. But then politicians are crooked everywhere... don't you think?

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    Default Re: Sometimes the hypocrisy still shocks me

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    And perhaps the moral of the story was lost on some. My state budgets the taxes on cigarettes the year before they are collected. Now he is on the radio bragging about the massive amount of revenue collected on cigarette taxes. Didn’t he want everyone to stop? So why brag about it now? That’s what I mean about hypocrisy. My state also blew all the money they got from the tobacco industry in lawsuits. It wasn’t set aside to help people quit like it was supposed to be. I have no clue how this broke out into a usually shit storm thread. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of our politicians that was all.

    It's not a shit storm. Just slapping down the forum rabid dog.

    Taxing cigarettes. Whatever your take on this, I don't see anything particularly wrong with the practice. This... "Despite a pack being near 13usd here I see people on disability checks figuring out how many packs they can buy for month and still afford food."... describes people with severe addiction. It's a sickness, which should be treated. The fact that cigarettes serve no useful purpose and is harmful to your health is bad enough. When you throw "second hand smoke" in there, it compounds the problem. Not sure from your post whether you support or are against the cigarette taxes themselves... but I see your point about the hypocrisy part of it. But then politicians are crooked everywhere... don't you think?
    Well tits that was the whole thing. I made a point to say I was not defending cigarettes, just found the hypocrisy of our governor bragging about the revenue rather sickening. The interview was basically about why our state is doing so well, which it isn’t

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    Default Re: Sometimes the hypocrisy still shocks me

    Cigarettes are evil, and should be taxed out of existence.

    Saying whataboutisms regarding other items in order to NOT try and eliminate evil cigarettes is just, well, .... classic Whataboutery.

    It's like someone says "let's round up all the local meth dealers", and Mr. Whaddabout says "y-y-yeah but then OTHER people will just step in to take their place", .... 😶

    OK then, fuck it, don't do anything then, fuck it, just let em operate their evil racket.

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    Default Re: Sometimes the hypocrisy still shocks me

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Cigarettes are evil, and should be taxed out of existence.

    Saying whataboutisms regarding other items in order to NOT try and eliminate evil cigarettes is just, well, .... classic Whataboutery.

    It's like someone says "let's round up all the local meth dealers", and Mr. Whaddabout says "y-y-yeah but then OTHER people will just step in to take their place", .... 😶

    OK then, fuck it, don't do anything then, fuck it, just let em operate their evil racket.
    He obviously doesn’t want them taxes out of existence if he is bragging about the money they bring in.

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    True he's an asshole

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