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Kirkland Laing
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TitoFan
Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
You take a look at Joe Biden and you just can't believe that this is the best the Democrats could offer. I mean Andrew Yang would have been a much more interesting candidate in my opinion. Give a young guy a chance to see what he can do. What was wrong with a couple of the others compared with Joe Biden? A lot of them were better than Joe Biden. The Democrats spent the last 4 years talking about diversity and multiculturalism and they put a 79-year-old white guy up there as their presidential candidate. You just cannot make that stuff up
You go into an electoral cycle with the electorate you have, not the electorate you want to have. The median voter in this election, the guy you need to get to vote for you in order to win, is a fiftysomething white guy with no college education*. Democratic primary voters picked Biden because he had the biggest chance of being elected.
*In 2016 Trump lost the popular vote by three million votes. He won the presidency by pulling an effective inside straight -- he won PA, WI and MI by a combined total of less than 80 000 votes. Those three midwestern states that have reliably voted Democratic for so long that Hillary didn't even campaign in them put Trump in the White House. So in this election the deciding voter is a fiftysomething midwestern white guy with no college education. He's the guy who decides who wins. Democratic voters are aware of this so they nominated the guy with the best chance of winning that vote.
I don't think you're giving "the fifty-something white guy with no college education" enough credit to think that Joe Biden was the best candidate to win their vote.
The Democratic candidate field started with 20............... TWENTY people vying for the Presidency. Joe Biden wasn't even in the running early on. Even if it was just a premeditated Democratic Party sham to have 20 candidates only to turn around and choose Biden... it was a poor choice.
We're talking about a guy who will be 78 years old by the time he takes office... and 82 by the time he finishes his first term. A guy whose verbal gaffs have been coming fast and furious, and giving pause to his most staunch supporters.
Ain't no way in HELL I'm gonna believe Joe Biden is the best candidate the Democratic Party could trot out there having had four years to get it right.
That's what all the polls say though. No other candidate for the nomination came close to Biden in terms of electability or how he ran against Trump. Biden has had a solid eightish point lead over Trump for over a year now. Since well before the pandemic started.
And it's not the Democratic party who chose Biden. It's voters who chose him. They chose him because for better or worse he was the candidate with the biggest chance of beating Trump. Same thing happened in 2004 when they picked Kerry. Kerry was nowhere in the nomination race until national polls showed him running best against Bush.
He is really old and does make gaffes although the current fucker makes them twice as fast and Biden has always made gaffes. It doesn't seem to bother people although it now plays into his being too old line of attack. Biden has a lot of negatives but was the least worst candidate available.
I liked Delaney from the original 20.
He rarely got a chance to speak at the debates, because the way those stupid things are set up... those at the ends (even 10 people up on stage is too much for a good debate) got maybe 15 seconds of air time which of course is ridiculous.
The debate format was totally messed up, and designed to favor the frontrunners and screw the ones toward the ends of the stage.
Delaney has the business acumen and thought process to have been a great candidate, IMO.
Pete Buttigieg would've been another good choice.
But the whole damn process was a setup. Seems a lot of minds were made up even before Biden decided to announce his candidacy.
The gaffs cannot be ignored. They represent a worrisome but legitimate concern about his durability under the intense pressure cooker of the White House, especially given the chasm and chaos already caused by Trump.
The fact remains that the Democratic Party spent the better part of 4 years doing a lot of hand-wringing and denial... instead of doing that for a few months and then immersing themselves in the business of creating policy and developing candidates.
If Trump wins it's the Dems' damn fault.
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