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Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
CDC reports hospitals counted 130k deaths from heart attack, influenza and other causes as covid deaths. That is nasty
The claim relies on misinterpretation of death certificates. Death certificates record the sequence of events by which humans succumb to a disease: underlying cause of death is what leads to the crisis that kills. So a lethal heart attack brought on by COVID-19 is correctly counted as a COVID-19 death in the CDC tally.

...many of the conditions listed, such as pneumonia, respiratory distress and cardiac arrest, are caused by COVID-19.

So, the death certificate might report the cause of death as respiratory distress syndrome due to pneumonia due to COVID-19, i.e., a logical causal sequence from the immediate cause (respiratory distress) working back to the underlying cause (COVID-19). Other pre-existing conditions that may be present (e.g., hypertension, heart disease, diabetes, COPD) are most often reported as contributing factors, not as the underlying cause. In 92% of deaths where COVID-19 is reported on death certificates, COVID-19 is reported as the underlying cause of death
It saddens me to see the debate of how deaths are named/identified more so than the question of how do we respond to a virus that produces asymptomatic victims.
How do we trust a president that said behind closed doors it is transmissible by air. It is deadly. In the open, its just the flu. Talked more about how Democrats viewed it than how do we end it. Oh, I remember, like a miracle it will go away. How that question evades the voters of the prez is mind boggling and heartbreaking.
He lied. End result we squabble with one another as we die in the process.