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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Usyk would make wilder look very bad, I think we're getting carried away now
    Agreed. People forget that Wilder weighs as much as Usyk and Usyk is 100 times the boxer that Wilder is

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    I think this was the best version of chisora. I think usyk can do ok versus Joshua and whyte . wilder puts him out at some point and fury outboxed him

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Usyk is better and harder to hit than Andy Ruiz, so he could have some success against Joshua who has a weak chin.
    He outpoints Wilder all day.

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    It was an alright fight I guess. Decent effort from Chisora but went entirely to script. He managed to bang to the body pretty well in spots but his lack of mobility and speed cost him as we all expected it to. I saw anchored cruise ships off the coast of Torquay last week moving faster. Usyk did what Usyk does and turned the heat up as the fight wore on. He won't have had to come through quite as physical a test as he did early doors before but he came through it and put together some beautiful work in the second half.

    The immediate reaction is well if Chisora can give him a run for his money, AJ Fury Wilder and Whyte will turn him over. Fury and AJ I'd go along with. Too big, too strong, far better mobility than Chisora, far faster, better punch variety. Wilder. Same old same old. Gets out boxed but might just land the atomic windmill.

    Whyte I'm not so sure about. He and Chisora over the course of two fights are separated by one massive hit. If they fought tomorrow they'd probably have the same fight all over again and punch one another to a standstill. The younger and fresher version of Chisora line is getting tired now. Yes he's younger but the miles are racking up. He hasn't had a relatively easy night since Lucas Browne. I see a Usyk Whyte fight going the same way as this one.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    I am a big fan of Usyk but it's a big but he is not big enough or punch hard enough for the likes of AJ or Fury.!
    A brilliant boxer indeed but against the bigger monster HWs he will struggle Chisora is not the same level as AJ and Fury.
    Usyk maybe needs to think about fighting back at Cruiser or the new Super Cruiser division.

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    I am a big fan of Usyk but it's a big but he is not big enough or punch hard enough for the likes of AJ or Fury.!
    A brilliant boxer indeed but against the bigger monster HWs he will struggle Chisora is not the same level as AJ and Fury.
    Usyk maybe needs to think about fighting back at Cruiser or the new Super Cruiser division.
    There is far more money to be earned at this heavyweight division than anywhere else. No way will Usyk go down in weight now. He really needs more fights and test to get used to the bigger fighters. I bet he is hoping AJ bins the WBO title to allow him to do that.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Good fight, great challenge.

    I'm of the mindset that most HW's greatest test came from the term:gatekeeper or fighters on the losing side of betting odds.

    Think LHW Conn drubbing the Brown Bomber for 12rds, Jones forcing Clay to go toe2toe to the distance, Shavers for Holmes, 10-1 underdog Tucker nursing a broken right hand going distance with Tyson, Bert Cooper standing 8 count over Holyfield, McCall over Lewis & recently a fat chaloopa stopping Joshua.

    Chisora did what Usyk needed. He needed to feel the clinch of a fighter placing him in a headlock then literally laying ALL that weight on his neck & back. Lennox did it, Vitali did it, Wladimir did it and Fury does it. Oleksander needed to feel the burn in his lungs because the other guy is willing to throw over 600. Damn how it looks. Which is harder for Uysk? Fending off 350 well placed shots over 12 rds? Or fending off 600 over 12 rds from every which-a-away?

    Usyk can have the utmost confidence aint no Joshua, Fury or Wilder is gonna throw what that old wily master of a gatekeeper Derek did: throw over 600.
    A David Haye or Fury & AJ are too busy thinking, setting traps, looking to counter. Wilder is too busy looking for the bronze bomb. That plays to Usyk's strength which is a thinking fighter with the punch output of a CW (more).


    Derek is just awesome at fighting through fatigue. So much so that he gained my respect in the latter 1/2 of his career. Thats what real fighters do, fight thru it.

    Larry Holmes is one of our greatest and guess what he lacked? KO power. Holyfield looked like a KO artist, but he never had a 1-hitter quitter. Ruiz' stoppage is via accumulation. So in that group, Usyk can find his way to a title at HW.
    He has enough power to keep a fighter honest. But if the HW with a heavier shot isnt willing to deplete Uysk's gas tank....well the HW division just got that much more interesting!!

    Congrats Usyk you survived this era's best gatekeeper!

    for a brash talking old' dude Chisora must have a lot of respect to provide 5 guy burgers for the whole crew!!!! I just watched it & thought they did us proud!


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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Usyk would make wilder look very bad, I think we're getting carried away now
    Agreed. People forget that Wilder weighs as much as Usyk and Usyk is 100 times the boxer that Wilder is
    Wilder has no legitimate place in any top 5

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Usyk is such a good boxer. Technically excellent, intelligent fighter, really good stamina and engine but what sets him apart is his footwork.

    The Chisora fight was the absolute perfect heavyweight warm up/taster fight for him.

    Trouble is, I am not convinced he hits hard enough to frighten or get the respect of the big boys, who will feel they can pile in there without much fear of a big repercussion.
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