Visual Perception.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

it is well known by seers, sages and shamans, and in the Tibetan Book of The Dead, that an object is really another object: we recently saw in quantum coupling that an object can be an object which is not itself. Objects therefore cannot have any shape, as they may or may not be the object you name it, but another object in its place. and if you see that an atom is 99.999975% empty, then you will know that objects are mere illusions. If an atom was the size of a football field, there would be a nucleus at midfield so small you would need a microscope to see its protons and neutrons, and the orbitals of the electrons would be 100 meters out in orbits. 99.99975% of the footbal field would be pure empty space. Objects are therefore 99.99975% hollow. What you see is not really an object.

[SlimTrae]

Deep.

[Alpha]

it is well known by seers, sages and shamans, and in the Tibetan Book of The Dead, that an object is really another object: we recently saw in quantum coupling that an object can be an object which is not itself. Objects therefore cannot have any shape, as they may or may not be the object you name it, but another object in its place. and if you see that an atom is 99.999975% empty, then you will know that objects are mere illusions. If an atom was the size of a football field, there would be a nucleus at midfield so small you would need a microscope to see its protons and neutrons, and the orbitals of the electrons would be 100 meters out in orbits. 99.99975% of the footbal field would be pure empty space. Objects are therefore 99.99975% hollow. What you see is not really an object.

Are you claiming objects are mere illusions?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

We are seeing what we are seeing, we are hearing what we are hearing, feeling and smelling and tasting what we are feeling I'm smelling and tasting, BUT.....


BUT.....

They are not indicative of what the objects really are.

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We are seeing what we are seeing, we are hearing what we are hearing, feeling and smelling and tasting what we are feeling I'm smelling and tasting, BUT.....


BUT.....

They are not indicative of what the objects really are.

So they are objects?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

We are seeing what we are seeing, we are hearing what we are hearing, feeling and smelling and tasting what we are feeling I'm smelling and tasting, BUT.....


BUT.....

They are not indicative of what the objects really are.

So they are objects?

Well I don't really know what an object is because an object is made out of billions of atoms which I just told you are 99.99975% hollow or empty.

What is the essential unit? For me it certainly would not be billions of atoms which form billions of molecules which then form what we think is an object.

If we could get to a unit that we could all agree is the smallest unit then and only then could we say that is an object.

Immutable.

So they split the atom and then they split the subatomic particles and now we are splitting particles smaller than those.

So I don't even know if those can be considered objects.

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We are seeing what we are seeing, we are hearing what we are hearing, feeling and smelling and tasting what we are feeling I'm smelling and tasting, BUT.....


BUT.....

They are not indicative of what the objects really are.

So they are objects?

Well I don't really know what an object is because an object is made out of billions of atoms which I just told you are 99.99975% hollow or empty.

What is the essential unit? For me it certainly would not be billions of atoms which form billions of molecules which then form what we think is an object.

If we could get to a unit that we could all agree is the smallest unit then and only then could we say that is an object.

Immutable.

So they split the atom and then they split the subatomic particles and now we are splitting particles smaller than those.

So I don't even know if those can be considered objects.

Is a brick a physical object of our shared objective reality or a mere illusion?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

We are seeing what we are seeing, we are hearing what we are hearing, feeling and smelling and tasting what we are feeling I'm smelling and tasting, BUT.....


BUT.....

They are not indicative of what the objects really are.

So they are objects?

Well I don't really know what an object is because an object is made out of billions of atoms which I just told you are 99.99975% hollow or empty.

What is the essential unit? For me it certainly would not be billions of atoms which form billions of molecules which then form what we think is an object.

If we could get to a unit that we could all agree is the smallest unit then and only then could we say that is an object.

Immutable.

So they split the atom and then they split the subatomic particles and now we are splitting particles smaller than those.

So I don't even know if those can be considered objects.

Is a brick a physical object of our shared objective reality or a mere illusion?

We both see and say "brick" but I don't know what you are seeing, and you don't know what I am seeing. Take the color blue or pink. I don't know if you are seeing the exact same "color" as I am. But we agree it's blue, so some sharing must be there.

What do you think?

[SlimTrae]

We are seeing what we are seeing, we are hearing what we are hearing, feeling and smelling and tasting what we are feeling I'm smelling and tasting, BUT.....


BUT.....

They are not indicative of what the objects really are.

So they are objects?

Well I don't really know what an object is because an object is made out of billions of atoms which I just told you are 99.99975% hollow or empty.

What is the essential unit? For me it certainly would not be billions of atoms which form billions of molecules which then form what we think is an object.

If we could get to a unit that we could all agree is the smallest unit then and only then could we say that is an object.

Immutable.

So they split the atom and then they split the subatomic particles and now we are splitting particles smaller than those.

So I don't even know if those can be considered objects.

On a sensory note molecular wise that is! I wonder if an alien world were to ever contact us and their visual perception isn't just greater in seeing distances like a bird, but sensitive eyes likened to a microscope. Could that be why they won't contact us?
Because we look like a moving massive blob of ever flowing bacterial microbes!!! Eww!!! Those beings residing on that 3rd speck of dirt from their closet ball of gaseous fire are most hideous looking!!