Today In Biden Land

[NoSavingByTheBell]

93% of news coverage from January 2017 until now has been negative on Donald Trump, with a mere 7% being positive.

The positions and opinions of people like Obama and Clinton, Maxine Waters and Nancy pelosi, Chuck Schumer and AOC, and I will venture to say 90% of all Hollywood celebrities, have all been negative on Trump.

So saying that Donald Trump is the deep state or that he is part of the swamp, really stretches the imagination and tests the limits of logic and reason.

if Donald Trump was part of the deep State then the media would have loved him and Obama and Clinton and George Bush who anybody on either side would agree are the epitome of the deep state, would surely have adored him.

He may be a filthy rich billionaire who I'm sure has done some questionable deals over the decades and maybe even worse who knows, but he was never part of the Washington DC inner circle establishment, he was never able to wield great influence and power in politics over local or regional constituents or even nationally or internationally.

Anybody who thinks that Joe Biden after 47 years in politics, who has done almost virtually nothing, who has already appointed people on his imaginary office of president-elect, who come directly from big tech like Google and Facebook, anybody who thinks that Joe Biden is not the epitome of the deep state, and that Joe Biden would be better for the people than Donald Trump, I think probably is not looking at it very clearly.

This is not being directed at Kirkland or beanz or anyone in particular.

[TitoFan]

[Beanz]

The deep state goes back to Mccarthy. Here on the left it has been discussed since the sixties. For the right, particularly under Trump it is something from the last 3 or 4 years.

Personally I have discussions and read about it since the late 80s early 90's.

By far the majority of media, even in America is right wing and corporate. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS etc... All right wing.

Seriously.

Massive corporations. Run by Billionaires and millionaires. Old money. Aristocratic, feudal families.

Like the Trumps.

Trumps media is wildly popular. 10 times more read than any centre or left wing alternative. To suggest that he is somehow a victim of a mainstream media is frankly ludicrous.

The majority of the mainstream media here in the UK is right wing and owned by huge corporate millionaires and billionaires too. They have for years presented a false choice and done a hatchet job on anyone who threatens that system and offers a real alternative.

Trump never offered an alternative, quite the opposite. He not only reinforced that bias and corruption he doubled down on it and made it explicit. He weaponised the system from within, removing any remaining checks and balances in order to secure the continuation of that Deep state.

Look at how many corporate interests were quickly served with unparralled corruption that actually opened the floodgates and released a tidal wave to fill the swamp, way past recognition.

Any questioned Trump and they were labeled Deep State and fired with Trump making sure to destroy their character and with it any chance of them being listened to by his cult following. Classic double bluff tactic.

Look at Barr. Leaking state enquiries to embolden Trump with his vote suppression tactics. It has been a reign so audacious in its self interest that seemingly reasonable people have rather than question their own judgement, convinced themselves that Trump is something he clearly isn't.


He is up to his neck in it with the house of Saud, the MIC, Epstein, crime families, etc and the deep corporate monsters that control policy.

He is a grifter and a con man who has managed to convince people that even becoming the most powerful man on earth is not enough to expose the bogeymen that deflected attention from him all along.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

if the media here is pro-right, I must need glasses and a hearing aide. Only Fox (and not even much any more) and Alex Jones are pro-right. YOu take a look at MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN -- all are VICIOUSLY anti-Trump. Do you not agree with that? If you dont, please show me a few positive report from any of those networks on Trump. You would be hard pressed to find one even. How is CNN right-wing or conservative? I really, really dont get that.

[SlimTrae]

The deep state goes back to Mccarthy. Here on the left it has been discussed since the sixties. For the right, particularly under Trump it is something from the last 3 or 4 years.

Personally I have discussions and read about it since the late 80s early 90's.

By far the majority of media, even in America is right wing and corporate. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS etc... All right wing.

Seriously.

Massive corporations. Run by Billionaires and millionaires. Old money. Aristocratic, feudal families.

As you can tell, this will only be met with denial. They prefer maybes & probables over actual and factual. Rather than discuss what is truth, they prefer what is negative.
They have completely rewritten the definition of media- to Trumpists & Anti-Bidens they have closed their minds allowing conversation for MSNBC & CNN & NY Times only.
the kind of news/businesses one has to solicit by becoming a subscriber to their network, cable dish, whereas with FCC our antennas or replacements of digital boxes allow Americans to see without subscription, FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS. As you accurately stated.


Trumpists refuse to acknowledge the 1st conduit for disseminating information is the paper and what do they do? Start & Stop with NY Times. (F) every newspaper in every major or minor city, can't be considered media.

Trumpists refuse to acknowledge the 2nd conduit for disseminating information is radio. They know they have completely fucked over the entire country. One can't go anywhere & not here a Rush Limbaugh show to all his wannabes. Major corporations made that possible.

Trumpists refuse to acknowledge that local television has also been compromised, they say jack shit about Sinclair, the network that forced their licensed owners of local tv stations to recite their oath verbatim.




They know their own personal media outlets is so stank-assed biased, they spend years & decades on forums like this one here, calling out the mainstream, then pleading the 5th for where they get their news from. Aint no way in hell their own personal OAN is any different. Biased for those who line their pockets, biased for those sponsors.


They know that Clear Channel monopolized the market only after Reagan's team deemed that was unconstitutional Fairness Doctrine act, if you are not familiar with it, prevented exactly that- a monopoly on the airwaves, but when they broke the bank with more corporatism and Wall Street moguls via Reagan's admin...they came together under several heavily funded think tanks that determined they wanted an alternative media.

As they couldn't disprove current media was unfair, as they all had dissenting views be it the newspaper has 3 versions of a story. Front page & then a section pro liberal & pro conservative.

As I understand it from those think tanks like Mercatus & Heritage, their intentions was to polarize media as too inept to integrate with. Too biased, therefore the only conclusion was to create a network that in fact catered to opinion.
End result conservatism gave in to Right Wing & today we have uh, Tumpism? Aint no conservatives in this group. & they are a okay with claiming the media is unfair. It allows them to complete their own biased, hate-filled, liberal-bashing, Democrat-denouncing opinionated platform that they will foolhardily label as : real news

Koch Industries Invested $127.5 Million in Building Right-Wing Infrastructure.

https://www.prwatch.org/news/2019/11...structure-2018
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...olitical-group
how the Koch brothers work to influence US politics and the role played by AFP.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/koch-brothers

Ask a Trumpist to name something about George Soros Of the Left & offer $1 per fact & they will clean you out for about $2,200-$13,000!
Ask a Trumpist to name something about Koch Brothers & offer them $10k per fact and they will walk out with the money they walked in with, nothing more.

The media to them is the result of what they've been raised on since the 1970s. A business effort to replace an external enemy of the 1950s (cold war Russia) with an internal enemy- liberalism. This was preached in their many think tanks post later 1970s.
To which is why They give us generalizations, ambiguous responses of which sources they favor for truth seeking news. They are vague in claiming media by way of CNN, MSNBC & NY Times newspaper is biased, while also bragging how few viewers watch CNN for example. No one is watching....yet we all are influenced by these media giants...Trumpists bodly claim. And they loathe all FOX news anchors, Shepard Smith (gone) Chris Wallace & Cavuto.

Somehow they get their news from the opinion shows like Judge Janine Sean Hannity & their counterparts of Glen Beck, Alex Jones, twitter, FB & Instagram. All other sources or outlets are purposely brushed over to fuel their narrative.