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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    He quit 100%

    But he isn’t good enough.

    Joyce is a 35 year old prospect.

    I think if he continues in boxing he is going to end up very badly hurt.

    The blueprint to beat him is so basic as proven last night.

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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Yes but it’s the question on whether or not it was acceptable. I completely understand why he quit, but at that age with the amount of desire you should have to win, it doesn’t look great. I think it proved that he will never reach the top because he looked like he wanted to quit for half of the fight.

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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Yes but it’s the question on whether or not it was acceptable. I completely understand why he quit, but at that age with the amount of desire you should have to win, it doesn’t look great. I think it proved that he will never reach the top because he looked like he wanted to quit for half of the fight.
    Acceptable to who? No one elses opinion on acceptability means fuck all.

    Dubios thought it was acceptable and that’s all the matters.

    I do believe he shouldn’t continue boxing, unless it’s purely for paydays.
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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Yes but it’s the question on whether or not it was acceptable. I completely understand why he quit, but at that age with the amount of desire you should have to win, it doesn’t look great. I think it proved that he will never reach the top because he looked like he wanted to quit for half of the fight.
    Acceptable to who? No one elses opinion on acceptability means fuck all.

    Dubios thought it was acceptable and that’s all the matters.

    I do believe he shouldn’t continue boxing, unless it’s purely for paydays.
    Fans opinion for sure matter because that’s how he gets his paycheck. If everyone just views him as a quitter that is overrated then he loses a lot of future money.

    With that said, he made his decision to quit which is up to him. My point was that long before he quit, he looked like he wanted to quit. It’s not like Brook where he was completely game but eventually quit because of his eye socket. Dubois seemed to want an out for a while.

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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Yes but it’s the question on whether or not it was acceptable. I completely understand why he quit, but at that age with the amount of desire you should have to win, it doesn’t look great. I think it proved that he will never reach the top because he looked like he wanted to quit for half of the fight.
    Acceptable to who? No one elses opinion on acceptability means fuck all.

    Dubios thought it was acceptable and that’s all the matters.

    I do believe he shouldn’t continue boxing, unless it’s purely for paydays.
    Fans opinion for sure matter because that’s how he gets his paycheck. If everyone just views him as a quitter that is overrated then he loses a lot of future money.

    With that said, he made his decision to quit which is up to him. My point was that long before he quit, he looked like he wanted to quit. It’s not like Brook where he was completely game but eventually quit because of his eye socket. Dubois seemed to want an out for a while.
    I kinda agree with you. My issue is people talking so much about the quit, guy couldn’t see. He did look shaken after blowing his wad in the first 3 rounds and he was scared.

    But he needs to be real with himself now about going forward.

    Viktor Faust Vykhryst fought friday night in his 5th fight and he looked like he would have beaten both of them comfortably.

    The class difference between Faust and Dubios is so vast.
    Last edited by Vendettos; 11-29-2020 at 10:26 PM.
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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Viktor Vykhryst was very comfortable when he fought Joyce in the WSB, Had a nice little lie down
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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    It's pretty evident he quit, but as said it was for the right reasons. His face was reddening after round 1 and his eye was a mess. It was a pretty solid jab that landed right on that swelling knocking it back into his face, it's easy to see how that could cause some serious damage and pain in and around the eye.

    Wouldn't write off Dubois just yet, I was pretty high on him, but I think we can bring down his hype a few levels now and see how he rebounds.

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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Viktor Vykhryst was very comfortable when he fought Joyce in the WSB, Had a nice little lie down
    Thats why I said ahead of Dubois lol.

    He would have beaten JJ on Saturday though.
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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Yes but it’s the question on whether or not it was acceptable. I completely understand why he quit, but at that age with the amount of desire you should have to win, it doesn’t look great. I think it proved that he will never reach the top because he looked like he wanted to quit for half of the fight.
    Acceptable to who? No one elses opinion on acceptability means fuck all.

    Dubios thought it was acceptable and that’s all the matters.

    I do believe he shouldn’t continue boxing, unless it’s purely for paydays.
    Thats a bit harsh mate

    i won good money on that fight, they were throwing him under a bus

    I really cant believe he was favourite

    That said he lost to a vastly more experienced fighter, hes a complete novice in comparison and has loads of opportunity to improve

    no need to throw in the towel yet
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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Article on the BBC today suggests he's still waiting on being given the all clear yet.
    Sounds to me like there's some real potential concern over the eye. How long does it really take to assess the damage?


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/55992342

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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    He quit 100%

    But he isn’t good enough.

    Joyce is a 35 year old prospect.

    I think if he continues in boxing he is going to end up very badly hurt.

    The blueprint to beat him is so basic as proven last night.

    Flicking jab.
    He can learn to adjust and come back stronger?

    Jab ruined him.

    Did Joyce even use his right hand?

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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Dubois did quit but he did it for the right reasons.

    Brook did quit but he did it for the right reasons.

    Khan just quit.

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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Yeah he quit. But it should never have come to that. The ref saw that eye closed for at least 6 rounds and not once did he take a look or get a doctor to take a look.
    Ok , maybe DDD Should have just gone for it , shit or bust earlier, die on his sword , yadda, yadda. But he hasn’t got the experience or ring IQ to do that.
    More importantly and this is the real scandal, that at 21 years old, he doesn’t have the stamina to go for an all out attack.
    2 disgraces here, 1. The ref . & 2. DDD’s lack of Stamina.
    But his quitting was not in that category.
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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    It's not a fair question to ask in hindsight.

    At the time of the fight, anyone who said that he quit were perfectly justified in saying so, because no-one, not even Dubois himself knew what the problem was.

    In hindsight, he did the right thing, but it doesn't alter the fact that he did quit.

    Hopefully he can recover fully & resume his career, because he seems really dedicated to the sport & comes across as a decent guy.
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    Default Re: Did Dubois quit???

    Looking at the comments on the BBC news thread about this .... loving all the criticism about 'quitting' from keyboard warriors who have never set foot in a boxing ring in their life
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