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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    So let me get this straight, Trump increases the amount of minorities voting for him to the level where Democrats TYPICALLY lose. Trump brings home the bacon going 27 for 27 in toss up seats. Trump wins over state legislatures. Trump down ballot demolishes the Democrats....but it's not enough to beat the political juggernaut of Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.? Biden who apparently received more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the HISTORY of this great nation but carried only 17% of all counties (far less than Obama)? Biden who never held big rallies (a plan all along I believe to attempt to hide his lack of support), Biden who got demolished down ballot. Biden who had been in public office nearly half a century and every single time he ran for President he got humiliated (as if that's possible for a plagiarizing gaffe machine with a son who slept with his other son's widow and then fathered a child with a stripper and also got kicked out of the military for using cocaine/crack and who had several sketchy "jobs" where he basically sold access to his father who was then a VP....BIT. I. DIGRESS. ) yeah, so Joe Biden is 80+ million people popular? But he lost minority support, KEY minority support in the Black and Hispanic voting blocs below the threshold where STATISTICALLY the Democrats TYPICALLY lose....but he got the MOST VOTES......EVER.




    Suuuuuuuuuuure....that's not fishy.




    Hey, I get that a lot of people have a visceral hatred of Donald Trump (and you'd be foolish if you don't understand it's being fed to you by the media to have such feelings), I understand it, I do. At this point I'd ask those folks if they would at least attempt to de-emotionalize their feelings towards President Trump and ponder the statistical anomaly that has been this election and perhaps ask yourself "IF there has been foul play, am I alright with that?" because I find myself asking that same question of myself. "Would I be ok if 'my guy' won a rigged election?" ......I've not yet formulated an answer to that question as it's a proper mind fuck. Forget the other candidate, if YOUR GUY that you supported in knockdown drag out political discussion and so forth, if he cheated, if there was a system that cheated for him and he didn't call it out wow......that would be a lot to process.


    As for what Biden is doing attempting to be all nicey nice now? what a joke. I won't get distracted by the "OMG Biden's going to resign or be resigned & Kamala is going to run things" drama either

    Trump performed worse in every single state relative to 2016 other than Florida and I think Utah.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...40894873001984



    Unless you think the Democrats managed to pull off massive voter fraud in every single state including states like Alabama and Arkansas then clearly Trump lost quite badly. The truth is he was the most unpopular president ever, was only elected due to the electoral college and pissed so many people off that a massive wave of voters from sea to shining sea turned out to boot him out of office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    So let me get this straight, Trump increases the amount of minorities voting for him to the level where Democrats TYPICALLY lose. Trump brings home the bacon going 27 for 27 in toss up seats. Trump wins over state legislatures. Trump down ballot demolishes the Democrats....but it's not enough to beat the political juggernaut of Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.? Biden who apparently received more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the HISTORY of this great nation but carried only 17% of all counties (far less than Obama)? Biden who never held big rallies (a plan all along I believe to attempt to hide his lack of support), Biden who got demolished down ballot. Biden who had been in public office nearly half a century and every single time he ran for President he got humiliated (as if that's possible for a plagiarizing gaffe machine with a son who slept with his other son's widow and then fathered a child with a stripper and also got kicked out of the military for using cocaine/crack and who had several sketchy "jobs" where he basically sold access to his father who was then a VP....BIT. I. DIGRESS. ) yeah, so Joe Biden is 80+ million people popular? But he lost minority support, KEY minority support in the Black and Hispanic voting blocs below the threshold where STATISTICALLY the Democrats TYPICALLY lose....but he got the MOST VOTES......EVER.




    Suuuuuuuuuuure....that's not fishy.




    Hey, I get that a lot of people have a visceral hatred of Donald Trump (and you'd be foolish if you don't understand it's being fed to you by the media to have such feelings), I understand it, I do. At this point I'd ask those folks if they would at least attempt to de-emotionalize their feelings towards President Trump and ponder the statistical anomaly that has been this election and perhaps ask yourself "IF there has been foul play, am I alright with that?" because I find myself asking that same question of myself. "Would I be ok if 'my guy' won a rigged election?" ......I've not yet formulated an answer to that question as it's a proper mind fuck. Forget the other candidate, if YOUR GUY that you supported in knockdown drag out political discussion and so forth, if he cheated, if there was a system that cheated for him and he didn't call it out wow......that would be a lot to process.


    As for what Biden is doing attempting to be all nicey nice now? what a joke. I won't get distracted by the "OMG Biden's going to resign or be resigned & Kamala is going to run things" drama either

    Trump performed worse in every single state relative to 2016 other than Florida and I think Utah.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...40894873001984



    Unless you think the Democrats managed to pull off massive voter fraud in every single state including states like Alabama and Arkansas then clearly Trump lost quite badly. The truth is he was the most unpopular president ever, was only elected due to the electoral college and pissed so many people off that a massive wave of voters from sea to shining sea turned out to boot him out of office.
    If he was so hated then why did that hate not extend down ballot?

    Traitor Republicans who ONLY turned against Trump? Benevolent Democrats?

    And if he did so poorly and was so hated then why the massive increase in votes in his favor as opposed to 2016 and especially among black and hispanic voters?

    Quite the head scratcher, but do go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    So let me get this straight, Trump increases the amount of minorities voting for him to the level where Democrats TYPICALLY lose. Trump brings home the bacon going 27 for 27 in toss up seats. Trump wins over state legislatures. Trump down ballot demolishes the Democrats....but it's not enough to beat the political juggernaut of Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.? Biden who apparently received more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the HISTORY of this great nation but carried only 17% of all counties (far less than Obama)? Biden who never held big rallies (a plan all along I believe to attempt to hide his lack of support), Biden who got demolished down ballot. Biden who had been in public office nearly half a century and every single time he ran for President he got humiliated (as if that's possible for a plagiarizing gaffe machine with a son who slept with his other son's widow and then fathered a child with a stripper and also got kicked out of the military for using cocaine/crack and who had several sketchy "jobs" where he basically sold access to his father who was then a VP....BIT. I. DIGRESS. ) yeah, so Joe Biden is 80+ million people popular? But he lost minority support, KEY minority support in the Black and Hispanic voting blocs below the threshold where STATISTICALLY the Democrats TYPICALLY lose....but he got the MOST VOTES......EVER.




    Suuuuuuuuuuure....that's not fishy.




    Hey, I get that a lot of people have a visceral hatred of Donald Trump (and you'd be foolish if you don't understand it's being fed to you by the media to have such feelings), I understand it, I do. At this point I'd ask those folks if they would at least attempt to de-emotionalize their feelings towards President Trump and ponder the statistical anomaly that has been this election and perhaps ask yourself "IF there has been foul play, am I alright with that?" because I find myself asking that same question of myself. "Would I be ok if 'my guy' won a rigged election?" ......I've not yet formulated an answer to that question as it's a proper mind fuck. Forget the other candidate, if YOUR GUY that you supported in knockdown drag out political discussion and so forth, if he cheated, if there was a system that cheated for him and he didn't call it out wow......that would be a lot to process.


    As for what Biden is doing attempting to be all nicey nice now? what a joke. I won't get distracted by the "OMG Biden's going to resign or be resigned & Kamala is going to run things" drama either

    Trump performed worse in every single state relative to 2016 other than Florida and I think Utah.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...40894873001984



    Unless you think the Democrats managed to pull off massive voter fraud in every single state including states like Alabama and Arkansas then clearly Trump lost quite badly. The truth is he was the most unpopular president ever, was only elected due to the electoral college and pissed so many people off that a massive wave of voters from sea to shining sea turned out to boot him out of office.
    If he was so hated then why did that hate not extend down ballot?

    Traitor Republicans who ONLY turned against Trump? Benevolent Democrats?

    And if he did so poorly and was so hated then why the massive increase in votes in his favor as opposed to 2016 and especially among black and hispanic voters?

    Quite the head scratcher, but do go on.

    Why would the hate extend downballot? Why would Republican voters who couldn't stand Trump not vote for state and local GOP candidates but not Trump? This isn't a new phenomenon Lyle, ticket splitting has existed for as long as there have been two parties contesting elections. It happened to Trump in 2016 as well when he underperformed state and local GOP candidates in the 2016 election.

    The alternative would be that Democrats managed to infiltrate every single congressional district in the country and add millions of fraudulent ballots even in deep red districts and states that would never vote Democratic to add millions of fraudulent votes for Biden, and do this completely undetected all under the noses of tens of thousands of GOP election officials and monitors and the national DHS department dedicated to making the election secure. But the millions of fraudulent ballots only helped Biden, not any other Democratic candidates. The fraudsters didn't want Democratic control of the Senate to allow Biden to get anything done and cast millions of fraudulent votes for Republican state and local candidates. You understand that all these votes are on the same ballot? Do you know how ballots work?

    There are no definitive numbers about election demographics yet. Every election a load of bullshit is written based on exit polls that always turn out to be miles off. Trump probably gained a couple of points with Black and Hispanic voters but this was down to the economy continuing to improve over the past few years, nothing to do with anything Trump did. If a recession had hit when Trump took office he'd have lost a few points with minority voters.

    Trump increasing his popular vote total is due to him turning out previously nonvoting voters who liked his racist white nationalist message. People who appreciated a man who "says what he thinks" and "doesn't talk like a regular politician" and all the other euphemisms people use. But Trump also disgusted liberals and moderate voters in a way more moderate GOP candidates don't which led to a wave of anti-Trump voting. Appealing to his scumbag white base drove up his numbers to levels never seen before and he really did turn out millions of new voters but the man and his rhetoric and his actions disgusted an even bigger number on the other side. Biden won despite being a poor candidate with no real message at all. He won because he wasn't Donald Trump.

    Here's some reading for you.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-visual-guide


    https://www.npr.org/transcripts/9342...=1607480020487

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Why would the hate extend downballot? Why would Republican voters who couldn't stand Trump not vote for state and local GOP candidates but not Trump? This isn't a new phenomenon Lyle, ticket splitting has existed for as long as there have been two parties contesting elections. It happened to Trump in 2016 as well when he underperformed state and local GOP candidates in the 2016 election.

    The alternative would be that Democrats managed to infiltrate every single congressional district in the country and add millions of fraudulent ballots even in deep red districts and states that would never vote Democratic to add millions of fraudulent votes for Biden, and do this completely undetected all under the noses of tens of thousands of GOP election officials and monitors and the national DHS department dedicated to making the election secure. But the millions of fraudulent ballots only helped Biden, not any other Democratic candidates. The fraudsters didn't want Democratic control of the Senate to allow Biden to get anything done and cast millions of fraudulent votes for Republican state and local candidates. You understand that all these votes are on the same ballot? Do you know how ballots work?

    There are no definitive numbers about election demographics yet. Every election a load of bullshit is written based on exit polls that always turn out to be miles off. Trump probably gained a couple of points with Black and Hispanic voters but this was down to the economy continuing to improve over the past few years, nothing to do with anything Trump did. If a recession had hit when Trump took office he'd have lost a few points with minority voters.

    Trump increasing his popular vote total is due to him turning out previously nonvoting voters who liked his racist white nationalist message. People who appreciated a man who "says what he thinks" and "doesn't talk like a regular politician" and all the other euphemisms people use. But Trump also disgusted liberals and moderate voters in a way more moderate GOP candidates don't which led to a wave of anti-Trump voting. Appealing to his scumbag white base drove up his numbers to levels never seen before and he really did turn out millions of new voters but the man and his rhetoric and his actions disgusted an even bigger number on the other side. Biden won despite being a poor candidate with no real message at all. He won because he wasn't Donald Trump.

    Here's some reading for you.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-visual-guide


    https://www.npr.org/transcripts/9342...=1607480020487
    Because typically Kirk....in the vast majority of elections in America when a Presidential candidate is not liked and their platform isn't liked they make it HARDER for others in their party to win elections and they don't typically increase their advantage in bell weather states in the process.


    Shot: "There are no definitive numbers about election demographics yet." Chaser: "Trump increasing his popular vote total is due to him turning out previously nonvoting voters who liked his racist white nationalist message."....what exactly is the "white nationalist message" Trump espouses? Please do tell me Kirkland.


    The Guardian? NPR? Why not send me a link to The Jacobin? Or your FAVORITE Mother Jones...why not send me those? They're just as reputable as the Guardian and NPR.

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    SCOTUS 5-4, Legislatures re-delegate, House 27-22 Jan. 6

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    BREAKING: Hunter Biden Says US Attorney’s Office In Delaware Is Investigating His ‘Tax Affairs
    https://breaking911.com/breaking-hun...s-tax-affairs/

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Why would the hate extend downballot? Why would Republican voters who couldn't stand Trump not vote for state and local GOP candidates but not Trump? This isn't a new phenomenon Lyle, ticket splitting has existed for as long as there have been two parties contesting elections. It happened to Trump in 2016 as well when he underperformed state and local GOP candidates in the 2016 election.

    The alternative would be that Democrats managed to infiltrate every single congressional district in the country and add millions of fraudulent ballots even in deep red districts and states that would never vote Democratic to add millions of fraudulent votes for Biden, and do this completely undetected all under the noses of tens of thousands of GOP election officials and monitors and the national DHS department dedicated to making the election secure. But the millions of fraudulent ballots only helped Biden, not any other Democratic candidates. The fraudsters didn't want Democratic control of the Senate to allow Biden to get anything done and cast millions of fraudulent votes for Republican state and local candidates. You understand that all these votes are on the same ballot? Do you know how ballots work?

    There are no definitive numbers about election demographics yet. Every election a load of bullshit is written based on exit polls that always turn out to be miles off. Trump probably gained a couple of points with Black and Hispanic voters but this was down to the economy continuing to improve over the past few years, nothing to do with anything Trump did. If a recession had hit when Trump took office he'd have lost a few points with minority voters.

    Trump increasing his popular vote total is due to him turning out previously nonvoting voters who liked his racist white nationalist message. People who appreciated a man who "says what he thinks" and "doesn't talk like a regular politician" and all the other euphemisms people use. But Trump also disgusted liberals and moderate voters in a way more moderate GOP candidates don't which led to a wave of anti-Trump voting. Appealing to his scumbag white base drove up his numbers to levels never seen before and he really did turn out millions of new voters but the man and his rhetoric and his actions disgusted an even bigger number on the other side. Biden won despite being a poor candidate with no real message at all. He won because he wasn't Donald Trump.

    Here's some reading for you.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-visual-guide


    https://www.npr.org/transcripts/9342...=1607480020487
    Because typically Kirk....in the vast majority of elections in America when a Presidential candidate is not liked and their platform isn't liked they make it HARDER for others in their party to win elections and they don't typically increase their advantage in bell weather states in the process.


    Shot: "There are no definitive numbers about election demographics yet." Chaser: "Trump increasing his popular vote total is due to him turning out previously nonvoting voters who liked his racist white nationalist message."....what exactly is the "white nationalist message" Trump espouses? Please do tell me Kirkland.


    The Guardian? NPR? Why not send me a link to The Jacobin? Or your FAVORITE Mother Jones...why not send me those? They're just as reputable as the Guardian and NPR.
    Yes Lyle, don't read anything factual, just keep on parroting the most easily disprovable moronic garbage that you saw on youtube.

    Once again, ticket splitting happens in every election to a greater or lesser degree. In both 2016 and 2020 millions of Republican voters couldn't stomach voting for Trump but voted for downballot GOP candidates. In both elections Trump underperformed the GOP candidates nationwide. He also lost vote share in 2020 compared to how he did in 2016 in 48 states, from deep red states to deep blue states, from sea to shining sea:

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...89302797635586

    Keep scrolling.



    And there are no reliable demographic numbers yet. There won't be for some time. But for an incumbent who was given credit by voters for the good economy* Trump should have done better with minority groups than he actually did. He did worse than George W Bush did with Hispanics and Blacks from first election to second election, we just don't know how badly yet.

    The millions of new voters he turned out we know about from voter registration analysis were blue collar white people. The Trump campaign spent four years and hundreds of millions of dollars recruiting new voters while Trump spent four years doubling down on his minging racist white nationalist message.

    *And of course Trump took office at the end of an economic expansion, so this is a rates versus levels situation. Job growth slowed under Trump, there were nearly two million less jobs created under the first three years of Trump versus the last three years of Obama. Economic growth was 0.1% higher per year under the first three years of Trump versus the eight years of Obama but Trump took office in the middle of an economic expansion while Obama took office at the start of a gigantic recession caused by the 2008 economic meltdown. And if you allow for the increased government spending and tax cut stimuluses under Trump economic growth was actually significantly slower in Trump's first three years versus Obama's eight years.

    https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/stat...07887040368640

    Keep scrolling with that one.

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    1. Egregious violation of The Electors Clause

    2. Egregious violation of Equal Protection

    3. Egregious violation of Due Process

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    1. Egregious violation of The Electors Clause

    2. Egregious violation of Equal Protection

    3. Egregious violation of Due Process
    Amazing people believe beijing Joe is the "president elect" or that he somehow "won"

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