Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
Why would the hate extend downballot? Why would Republican voters who couldn't stand Trump not vote for state and local GOP candidates but not Trump? This isn't a new phenomenon Lyle, ticket splitting has existed for as long as there have been two parties contesting elections. It happened to Trump in 2016 as well when he underperformed state and local GOP candidates in the 2016 election.

The alternative would be that Democrats managed to infiltrate every single congressional district in the country and add millions of fraudulent ballots even in deep red districts and states that would never vote Democratic to add millions of fraudulent votes for Biden, and do this completely undetected all under the noses of tens of thousands of GOP election officials and monitors and the national DHS department dedicated to making the election secure. But the millions of fraudulent ballots only helped Biden, not any other Democratic candidates. The fraudsters didn't want Democratic control of the Senate to allow Biden to get anything done and cast millions of fraudulent votes for Republican state and local candidates. You understand that all these votes are on the same ballot? Do you know how ballots work?

There are no definitive numbers about election demographics yet. Every election a load of bullshit is written based on exit polls that always turn out to be miles off. Trump probably gained a couple of points with Black and Hispanic voters but this was down to the economy continuing to improve over the past few years, nothing to do with anything Trump did. If a recession had hit when Trump took office he'd have lost a few points with minority voters.

Trump increasing his popular vote total is due to him turning out previously nonvoting voters who liked his racist white nationalist message. People who appreciated a man who "says what he thinks" and "doesn't talk like a regular politician" and all the other euphemisms people use. But Trump also disgusted liberals and moderate voters in a way more moderate GOP candidates don't which led to a wave of anti-Trump voting. Appealing to his scumbag white base drove up his numbers to levels never seen before and he really did turn out millions of new voters but the man and his rhetoric and his actions disgusted an even bigger number on the other side. Biden won despite being a poor candidate with no real message at all. He won because he wasn't Donald Trump.

Here's some reading for you.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-visual-guide


https://www.npr.org/transcripts/9342...=1607480020487
Because typically Kirk....in the vast majority of elections in America when a Presidential candidate is not liked and their platform isn't liked they make it HARDER for others in their party to win elections and they don't typically increase their advantage in bell weather states in the process.


Shot: "There are no definitive numbers about election demographics yet." Chaser: "Trump increasing his popular vote total is due to him turning out previously nonvoting voters who liked his racist white nationalist message."....what exactly is the "white nationalist message" Trump espouses? Please do tell me Kirkland.


The Guardian? NPR? Why not send me a link to The Jacobin? Or your FAVORITE Mother Jones...why not send me those? They're just as reputable as the Guardian and NPR.