Logically why the universe cannot be infinite in size.

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The one problem I see with your theory is that you are saying that infinite is an individual number ie 5737027593. From what I have learned in my math classes is that infinite is not an individual number, it is just a way of saying a number larger than what we can imagine. Like someone already said there is always a number larger than whatever number you can come up with.

At least mathematically speaking.

That's how I see it!

The edge isn't physical but the gravity around that area would prevent you from moving any further in that direction. Pun

I see.


Really, I guess it doesn't make a difference. We are not capable of getting anywhere close to the edge of the universe and reporting back to anyone so it is infinite as far as humans are concerned.

If Pi is infinite then I'd bet that the universe is as well. What good is an infinite number in a finite universe?

The edge isn't physical but the gravity around that area would prevent you from moving any further in that direction.<<--How I think of the edge.

The one problem I see with your theory is that you are saying that infinite is an individual number ie 5737027593. From what I have learned in my math classes is that infinite is not an individual number, it is just a way of saying a number larger than what we can imagine. Like someone already said there is always a number larger than whatever number you can come up with.

At least mathematically speaking.

Here's the thing with numbers, their only purpose is to help us understand the world around us. Let's say 100 was the biggest number we'd need to use to measure anything. We could add 1 to that to make number 101 but that number would have no use other than being a number. The same thing goes for the really small numbers. After so many places right to the decimal, there's no value in that number. Like .00000000000000000000000001 may have a purpose somewhere in our field but several places down the line its value in the real world realistically becomes 0 as nothing that small currently exists or is measureable.

I can't say I define numbers (symbols to define them) as some would say; an invention. IMO it is an internal system that allows anything with consciousness to account for its surroundings.
My example is my girlfriends cat. that fur ball IMO has no clue of math, but it knew how to figure out some of her kittens were missing. meaning it can comprehend amassing and the opposite-losing what she had.

The marvel of the Arabic numeral system IMO proves it is not an invention. Now Roman numeral system was an invention that proved faulty.
To add, subtract, computational, to divide, to multiply, summarize fractions are not inventions rather a means in which our brains reason & or perceive as a result of our eternal creator endowing us with the ability to account to amass.
It is a skill acquired depending on the civilization in question.
Our numeral system with placements using just the symbols of 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 allows us to determine a dosage of medicine or how to send a satelite into space is beyond symbols, into something I know blows my mind like calculus.

And I love math's symmetry. When I see examples like:
1x1 : 1

11x11 : 121

111x111 : 12321

111x111 : 1234321


This IMO is proof we humans have raised our level of thinking to comprehend numbers aren't just symbols to add or subtract. We've learned we can make formulas, determine medicinal dosage, hypothesize where to launch a satellite----and it gets there!!!
so if we can't find an end number in our minds, chances are we won't find an end number to the universe as in 999 quintillion miles away.
Somehow math and the universe are tied together. To understand our universe one has to have some understanding of math.
To learn our table of elements shows what happens when a single proton or electron is added or subtracted is more proof that math isnt an invention of man.
So smoothly flowing that allows us to learn gases, liquids, solids, minerals, oh the beauty of math symmetry!



I'll end on this note- one person whom I follow from a spiritual perspective (religion) impressed upon me that if we were to have a conversation with the messiah, on how we were created (his/her) language would be closer to calculi than English, Arabic etc.