Should Boris Resign?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

On the one hand you support the freedom of movement across borders and you are against brexit and nation states and now you are saying it is a bad thing for people to be waltzing in to the UK from the European Union? You can't have it both ways. If he had shut down the borders you would say he was being a claustrophobic xenophobe who's shutting out the freedom of movement. So since he has left them open now you are saying he has done the wrong thing with that all is well.

Where in your theory here about how bad his inactions have been do you at least try to put one little modicum of responsibility on people who should be wearing protective equipment if they are going to waltz right in? are you saying people are so dumb that they have to have the borders sealed like rats? Don't they have to wear masks and goggles or face Shields and take some personal responsibility for their own well-being? Or do you support the government with an iron fist mandating to people? Because that too would be in contradiction to your previous philosophy

[Beanz]

On the one hand you support the freedom of movement across borders and you are against brexit and nation states and now you are saying it is a bad thing for people to be waltzing in to the UK from the European Union? You can't have it both ways. If he had shut down the borders you would say he was being a claustrophobic xenophobe who's shutting out the freedom of movement. So since he has left them open now you are saying he has done the wrong thing with that all is well.

Where in your theory here about how bad his inactions have been do you at least try to put one little modicum of responsibility on people who should be wearing protective equipment if they are going to waltz right in? are you saying people are so dumb that they have to have the borders sealed like rats? Don't they have to wear masks and goggles or face Shields and take some personal responsibility for their own well-being? Or do you support the government with an iron fist mandating to people? Because that too would be in contradiction to your previous philosophy

Why do you think this is some kind of competition in which the only important thing for you is having the last word or win an argument by resorting to strawman bullshit? You sound like El Kabong.

Believing in the freedom of movement that has for 47 years brought huge and sustainable benefits to this country and the preservation of it's unique cultural identity against an onslaught of American corporate globalism is not incompatible with exercising common sense against a global pandemic.

You surely can not be so fucking gullible and naive to believe that the the EU itself is not made of of Sovereign nation states who can still exercise control over their borders when this week they have done just that in showing concern for their own citizens?

The UK didn't because it is run by a bunch of dishonest ideologically driven bigoted criminals.

Johnson has like Trump lied to his citizens more than any other leader in history. He does it every day and if you are pig headed and stupid enough to defend that then what is the point of discussing anything with you? You surely do not think it is OK to lie repeatedly to the British and American public whilst recklessly forcing thru policies that cause thousands of them to die?

Do you think that is OK?

From day one every air and ferry-port should have had mandatory testing and quarantining in place. We are a fucking group of Islands for Christs sake. That is not closing the borders. That is being adult and responsible. Doing the job that Trump and Johnson were elected to do. They can not do it. They refuse to even try and take on advice, until it is too late.

Stop defending them.

All this 'Iron Fist' bullshit is laughable scaremongering. I am talking about very simple common sense actions, not the kind of dictatorial military run state that you seem eager to support in propping up Trump and saving the bastard from prison.

Look at how disgustingly you have jumped into the camp that would describe millions of decent Europeans as brain washed commies because they refuse to kneel to globalist Trump and his dark money backers, and have the continent regress to satisfy some dumb model of inward looking xenophobia.

Trump has way more in common with China and North Korea than anybody on the left, anywhere else on the planet. He doesn't believe in anything but himself. Like Johnson, he is a man child who should be removed from office at the earliest opportunity.

They are dangerous idiots.

That is no longer an opinion, it is a verifiable fact.

Those denying it should be expected to looked at in the same way if they continue to defend the pair of bastards as they plunge us into chaos in service of their own egos.

Simple stuff man.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

No, no, it is not such "simple stuff". YOu'd like to MAKE it simple, when in reality all this is a brand new phenomenon never before seen since 1918. Each country -- as you are unwittingly admitting in your above post --- has the right to decide its border policies. The UK has dome just that. Decided its OWN border policies. SURELY if as you so boldly claim "all the other EU countries closed their borders", then WHAT is the problem and quite HOW can people waltz right in to the UK, IF the EU has closed its own individual country borders? YOu see, you are oversimplifying a rather complex series of local, state, provincial and country/federal coordination of rules, regulations, policies and procedures which, in an ideal sort of fantastical, dream-like state of platitudes, everything should be hunky-dory and move so smoothly as a wet snake on an ice skating rink. When in actual REAL life, you want to dump solely on Boris and Donald for causing the entire CHinese Communist Party COVID-19 Attack on The West, whilst thinking a few poisoned individuals --- as absolutely grotesque and tragic as it is --- by POSSIBLE Russian agents, are the true threat to The West, when in fact the CCP is wrecking your country totally and completely, dividing your nation like the US as well, in a Bolshevik-style breakdown of society pitting left against right, in order to totally annihilate The West so the CCP can take control over the entire planet.

Barking up the wrong tree, mate.

[Beanz]

No, no, it is not such "simple stuff". YOu'd like to MAKE it simple, when in reality all this is a brand new phenomenon never before seen since 1918. Each country -- as you are unwittingly admitting in your above post --- has the right to decide its border policies. The UK has dome just that. Decided its OWN border policies. SURELY if as you so boldly claim "all the other EU countries closed their borders", then WHAT is the problem and quite HOW can people waltz right in to the UK, IF the EU has closed its own individual country borders? YOu see, you are oversimplifying a rather complex series of local, state, provincial and country/federal coordination of rules, regulations, policies and procedures which, in an ideal sort of fantastical, dream-like state of platitudes, everything should be hunky-dory and move so smoothly as a wet snake on an ice skating rink. When in actual REAL life, you want to dump solely on Boris and Donald for causing the entire CHinese Communist Party COVID-19 Attack on The West, whilst thinking a few poisoned individuals --- as absolutely grotesque and tragic as it is --- by POSSIBLE Russian agents, are the true threat to The West, when in fact the CCP is wrecking your country totally and completely, dividing your nation like the US as well, in a Bolshevik-style breakdown of society pitting left against right, in order to totally annihilate The West so the CCP can take control over the entire planet.

Barking up the wrong tree, mate.

Why have my words

"Meanwhile in Europe several countries have closed their borders"


suddenly under your hands morphed into

"all the other EU countries closed their borders" ?

That is just simple dishonesty.


The whole point is that these are individual countries, not all anything.

Brexit was always a scam to help those dark money deep staters avoid paying tax. It had nothing to do with sovereignty.

You want to pretend that people's genuine abhorrence over the treasonous ACTIONS of Trump and Johnson are motivated by some kind of irrational hatred that ignores the global nature of the corona pandemic. Both leaders have consistently lied, way before the virus emerged, and will continue to do so while people like yourself support their illegal and immoral actions.

Johnson has filled up the House of Lords with dark money, Sons of KGB agents etc, just like Trump is pardoning those who like him were willing to bow to Putin in their search and lust for power. Trump was not exonerated, quite the opposite and has made it clear that he has no respect for democracy or people like you or me.

Look how much money has gone into the hands of the 1% under both men.

The billionaires who pay no tax are more than kind to families like the Johnsons and the Trumps because it pays to be so. Many of them are Russian Oligarchs, Saudi Royals etc and here you are doing their bidding.

Not standing shoulder to shoulder with decent everyday folks trying to earn a living but rather viewing us all as sheeple, and pretending that you must just be cleverer than all of us, and able to see something that in all honesty really is not there.

[Beanz]

[NoSavingByTheBell]

So you are against Cancel Culture, with all this "cancel Xmas" stuff you are posting?

[NoSavingByTheBell]