Canelo vs Callum Smith on Dec 19th

[Ron Swanson]

As long as 1 of those fights is Charlo then good on him.

charlo would need to move up, i don't think we will see canelo at middle again. avni, caleb & billy joe should be easy to make

And not one fight to care about there. Charlo has already said he would move up for Canelo. He already chased him out of 2 divisions and made them invent a sanctioned ducking mechanism. Why not chase him out of a 3rd?

[TitoFan]

Canelo's on record saying he'd be interested in Spence at 160.

So it's as it's always been. He "can't make 160"... but will (cough) find a way to make it if it's overblown Spence being offered as a sacrifice.

[TIC]

Canelo's on record saying he'd be interested in Spence at 160.

So it's as it's always been. He "can't make 160"... but will (cough) find a way to make it if it's overblown Spence being offered as a sacrifice.

i don't think we'll see canelo at middle again. i didn't say he can't make the weight. ggg did it with brook, canelo would only be doing the same

[TitoFan]

Canelo's on record saying he'd be interested in Spence at 160.

So it's as it's always been. He "can't make 160"... but will (cough) find a way to make it if it's overblown Spence being offered as a sacrifice.

i don't think we'll see canelo at middle again. i didn't say he can't make the weight. ggg did it with brook, canelo would only be doing the same

Canelo's already "done the same." Khan.

[TIC]

Canelo's on record saying he'd be interested in Spence at 160.

So it's as it's always been. He "can't make 160"... but will (cough) find a way to make it if it's overblown Spence being offered as a sacrifice.

i don't think we'll see canelo at middle again. i didn't say he can't make the weight. ggg did it with brook, canelo would only be doing the same

Canelo's already "done the same." Khan.

he gave khan a canelo weight. spence is considered pound for pound at least that's something. i don't want that fight but canelo will shut him up if need be

[TitoFan]

Canelo's on record saying he'd be interested in Spence at 160.

So it's as it's always been. He "can't make 160"... but will (cough) find a way to make it if it's overblown Spence being offered as a sacrifice.

i don't think we'll see canelo at middle again. i didn't say he can't make the weight. ggg did it with brook, canelo would only be doing the same

Canelo's already "done the same." Khan.

he gave khan a canelo weight. spence is considered pound for pound at least that's something. i don't want that fight but canelo will shut him up if need be

At one point Brook outweighed Golovkin days before the fight.

The only way Khan would've ever outweighed Canelo would've been if he jumped up and down on the scale and they took the peak weight.

Not worth arguing about.

Canelo robotically swatted Khan the Human Fly with the first (and only) punch he managed to land.

Some fight.

[TIC]

As long as 1 of those fights is Charlo then good on him.

charlo would need to move up, i don't think we will see canelo at middle again. avni, caleb & billy joe should be easy to make

And not one fight to care about there. Charlo has already said he would move up for Canelo. He already chased him out of 2 divisions and made them invent a sanctioned ducking mechanism. Why not chase him out of a 3rd?

we could weight for them to fight each other. everybody would move for canelo, nothing new there

[Ron Swanson]

As long as 1 of those fights is Charlo then good on him.

charlo would need to move up, i don't think we will see canelo at middle again. avni, caleb & billy joe should be easy to make

And not one fight to care about there. Charlo has already said he would move up for Canelo. He already chased him out of 2 divisions and made them invent a sanctioned ducking mechanism. Why not chase him out of a 3rd?

we could weight for them to fight each other. everybody would move for canelo, nothing new there

So you’re admitting “weight” that he’s going to run. Got it. More Caneloweight fights coming you suppose?

Edit-run again. Because he’s already run multiple times(nobody is forgetting Caneloweight)

[TIC]

As long as 1 of those fights is Charlo then good on him.

charlo would need to move up, i don't think we will see canelo at middle again. avni, caleb & billy joe should be easy to make

And not one fight to care about there. Charlo has already said he would move up for Canelo. He already chased him out of 2 divisions and made them invent a sanctioned ducking mechanism. Why not chase him out of a 3rd?

we could weight for them to fight each other. everybody would move for canelo, nothing new there

So you’re admitting “weight” that he’s going to run. Got it. More Caneloweight fights coming you suppose?

Edit-run again. Because he’s already run multiple times(nobody is forgetting Caneloweight)

should have been wait. canelo doesn't seem the type to run from tough opponents. jermall will get some when the time is right

[Ron Swanson]

As long as 1 of those fights is Charlo then good on him.

charlo would need to move up, i don't think we will see canelo at middle again. avni, caleb & billy joe should be easy to make

And not one fight to care about there. Charlo has already said he would move up for Canelo. He already chased him out of 2 divisions and made them invent a sanctioned ducking mechanism. Why not chase him out of a 3rd?

we could weight for them to fight each other. everybody would move for canelo, nothing new there

So you’re admitting “weight” that he’s going to run. Got it. More Caneloweight fights coming you suppose?

Edit-run again. Because he’s already run multiple times(nobody is forgetting Caneloweight)

should have been wait. canelo doesn't seem the type to run from tough opponents. jermall will get some when the time is right

Let’s cut the back and forth and both admit what holds that fight up. Canelo has always had fast hands and good head movement with sound defense, and that’s only getting better(the head movement and defense). But he has never had fast feet and he is slower of foot since his knee injury.

The reason the Charlo fight is put off in favor of others is he has movement with a powerful long jab and power in both hands. He’s not as good as Canelo but those factors do not favor Canelo’s current situation. He can handle a mover that can’t keep him honest(BJS) or a plodder that is long and powerful (Smith, Kovalev). But nobody wants a long powerful, fast opponent that can also move. Even if they are better fighters.(GGG and Canelo)

So people refuse the fight and use “who has he fought, what does he offer”, a guy can’t say “I fought XXX” if XXX won’t fight him. It’s a sick circle of picking fights that look hard, but aren’t actually hard. While ignoring fights that present real problems. I don’t blame Canelo. His resume is stellar. But I do blame media and fans that support the BS. I get the media’s motivation but fans should be honest about it.

Canelo probably wins the fight, but it should happen so we can see. Literally nobody wants the Avni fight or the BJS fight, the Plant fight presents some issues but his chin will probably let him down. That’s a year gone, in Canelo’s prime, proving nothing.

[TitoFan]

A few truths and good points mixed in with what amounts to throwing in the towel against TIC. Oh well.

It was the "he's not as good as Canelo" part that was enough to make one physically ill.

I'll stay on my little island proclaiming that Canelo is a manufactured hype job who is good (no one is disputing that)... but has had every single cotton-pickin' fight calculated and re-calculated in order to eliminate any chance of an upset of the golden apple cart.

People here (mostly British boxing fans) want to make a big deal about Callum Smith, when in actuality he totally floored me with how ineffective and vulnerable he looked against Canelo.

Again... hats off to the Canelo Computer Department (CCD), who as always was totally adept at picking out Callum.

The excuse of not being able to go to 160 to fight Charlo is as thin as deli-cut ham.

He can't make 160 for Charlo... but let Spence agree to go up there and watch the contract be signed in an hour's time.

He also can't go up to 175. But let Beterbiev retire or have the invincibility bludgeoned out of him (ala Kovalev)...... and you'll see the CCD churning away, plugging numbers and scenarios into the computer.

FFS..... what the hell happened to the champions who would fight anyone at ANY TIME, ANY PLACE, ANY HOW.

BTW, I saw a vid on Canelo saying he wanted to fight in Japan.

What... is there a sick cow there with a belt?

Give me a fukking break.

[Memphis]

FFS..... what the hell happened to the champions who would fight anyone at ANY TIME, ANY PLACE, ANY HOW.

Who do you have in mind when you say that?

This idea that a fighter will go from best possible challenge onto best possible challenge is bordering on fantasy isn't it?