Oleksandr Usyk v Joe Joyce

[X]

That would be a good,interesting matchup.

Usyk is quality, but he really is a cruiserweight and will always have that disadvantage against the super heavy giant. I doubt he will dope as much as Evan Fields did! Elite level skills, great engine, and cumulative power rather than a one hit KO artist. Good chin, as far as we can tell.

Joyce is good too, though possibly not as skilled as Usyk. Long amateur career, though, so he has the fundamentals and good technique. Moves well for such a tall guy, and uses his height well. Again, good chin and not a huge puncher.

Interesting fight for those of us that admire boxing IQ and skills. It has ‘points win’ written all over it, and it would be fascinating to see who nicks it

[Spicoli]

Joyce really impressed with that telephone pole power jab, he couldn't miss and it's a beast! Both are well deep in ama experience and familiarity. Usky will not be a stationary target at all and Joyce isn't exactly will o' the wisp defense wise. Usyk in danger from opening bell to the final but think he takes a unam dec.

[SlimTrae]

That's cool. I prefer Usyk's choice of Wilder. He beats Wilder, we have no need to consider him ever again outside his only means to win: a puncher's chance.

[Jambo]

Joyce really impressed with that telephone pole power jab, he couldn't miss and it's a beast! Both are well deep in ama experience and familiarity. Usky will not be a stationary target at all and Joyce isn't exactly will o' the wisp defense wise. Usyk in danger from opening bell to the final but think he takes a unam dec.

I agree with all of that. Usyk isn't Dubois, he won't stand still.

[Master]

Usyk beat Joyce over 4 rounds but I think Joe will win over 12 rounds. Joe has improved, will do better over the longer distance and I think Usyk is not as good with his injuries he has had and struggled too much against Chisora.

[Primo Carnera]

Usyk beat Joyce over 4 rounds but I think Joe will win over 12 rounds. Joe has improved, will do better over the longer distance and I think Usyk is not as good with his injuries he has had and struggled too much against Chisora.

I would hope Joyce has improved, he was an amateur. Every time a Brit is underdog for a title, you back them because “they’ve improved.”
Don’t fighters from anywhere else improve?

[Beanz]

Usyk beat Joyce over 4 rounds but I think Joe will win over 12 rounds. Joe has improved, will do better over the longer distance and I think Usyk is not as good with his injuries he has had and struggled too much against Chisora.

I would hope Joyce has improved, he was an amateur. Every time a Brit is underdog for a title, you back them because “they’ve improved.”
Don’t fighters from anywhere else improve?

What is your problem with Brits? Not being funny but you seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet when Brits celebrate or back fighters from here that many of us have followed for years. That is not blind optimism it is quite a natural and healthy response but you seem oddly irked by it.

If I am wrong then my apologies but that is how it comes across.

[SlimTrae]

Usyk beat Joyce over 4 rounds but I think Joe will win over 12 rounds. Joe has improved, will do better over the longer distance and I think Usyk is not as good with his injuries he has had and struggled too much against Chisora.

I would hope Joyce has improved, he was an amateur. Every time a Brit is underdog for a title, you back them because “they’ve improved.”
Don’t fighters from anywhere else improve?

What is your problem with Brits? Not being funny but you seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet when Brits celebrate or back fighters from here that many of us have followed for years. That is not blind optimism it is quite a natural and healthy response but you seem oddly irked by it.

If I am wrong then my apologies but that is how it comes across.

I pictured @Primo Carnera working at his barbershop, hears a patron talking about the upcoming fight "I think Joe will win over 12 rounds."
Patron in the chair asks "Why?"
Patron in line replies, "Joe has improved"

To Which Primo puts down his clippers and hollers' "THERE THEY GO! :Everytime a Brit sit in this chair,ask him why he think they next great gonna win? 'Cause they improved! That's they one! That's they one reason!


To which if he wrote in that mindset? It was rather amusing to read.

[Primo Carnera]

Usyk beat Joyce over 4 rounds but I think Joe will win over 12 rounds. Joe has improved, will do better over the longer distance and I think Usyk is not as good with his injuries he has had and struggled too much against Chisora.

I would hope Joyce has improved, he was an amateur. Every time a Brit is underdog for a title, you back them because “they’ve improved.”
Don’t fighters from anywhere else improve?

What is your problem with Brits? Not being funny but you seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet when Brits celebrate or back fighters from here that many of us have followed for years. That is not blind optimism it is quite a natural and healthy response but you seem oddly irked by it.

If I am wrong then my apologies but that is how it comes across.

First of all , I accept your apology. I have no problem with Brits whatsoever, not even you!
My problem isn’t with backing your fighter, regardless of whether if it is blind optimism or not.
But to try prove that it is not blind optimism by giving reasons like “he’s improved” is pathetic.
What happened to balance? Because you’re a Brit, you wouldn’t see it because it comes across as arrogant and disrespectful to the opposition fighter.
If the tables were turned you would see it mate, honestly.
If @Master were to have said :
“Joyce has improved a lot and he has a big size advantage , hopefully that will be enough. But Usyk needs to be respected for what he has achieved and it won’t be a pushover.”
I would have no problem whatsoever.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Usyk beat Joyce over 4 rounds but I think Joe will win over 12 rounds. Joe has improved, will do better over the longer distance and I think Usyk is not as good with his injuries he has had and struggled too much against Chisora.

I would hope Joyce has improved, he was an amateur. Every time a Brit is underdog for a title, you back them because “they’ve improved.”
Don’t fighters from anywhere else improve?

What is your problem with Brits? Not being funny but you seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet when Brits celebrate or back fighters from here that many of us have followed for years. That is not blind optimism it is quite a natural and healthy response but you seem oddly irked by it.

If I am wrong then my apologies but that is how it comes across.

I am backing Joe. He has a great strong jab and lots of experience and a really good chin. I think he will be too big over the course of the fight for the smaller Usyk.