Covid- 19 - Second wave

[Beanz]

I always like to think about how stupid the average person is ...... and then tell myself that half the population is even stupider

people who just believe without actually knowing are really stupid

​Yes, I completely agree with you

(although there is a ‘balance of probability’ equation to be taken into consideration in many aspects of life too)

I have to disagree. Philosophically this is not just shaky ground. It is a cliff face.

Life necessitates that we believe things without knowing them every day. You don't open up your engine to make sure the pistons are going, you don't check to make sure every product you buy has the ingredients it says it does by chemically analysing it, you don't take that third hit on a crack pipe to prove how addictive it can be, you don't spar on concrete because you have been knocked out and fractured your skull falling onto it.

We run our lives on belief. That is not the same thing as blind faith. With TIC EVERYTHING he is asking us all to believe is based on blind faith in him and those he relies on to make him self feel special. He has yet to produce anything to back up that blind faith and is simply playing Devil's advocate for the look of it.

If he had any knowledge about anything it would be game changing and he would not hesitate to share it.

He has a shit hand and should have folded months ago.

[X]

You’re right Beanz .... I think that was what I was trying to say about the balance of probability ( but not very clearly!).

I haven’t physically seen Muhammad Ali in the flesh, nor have I researched and checked out his family history. I’ve never met anyone who fought him either ..... but I am prepared to believe he existed!

[El Kabong]

I have to disagree. Philosophically this is not just shaky ground. It is a cliff face.

Life necessitates that we believe things without knowing them every day. You don't open up your engine to make sure the pistons are going, you don't check to make sure every product you buy has the ingredients it says it does by chemically analysing it, you don't take that third hit on a crack pipe to prove how addictive it can be, you don't spar on concrete because you have been knocked out and fractured your skull falling onto it.

We run our lives on belief. That is not the same thing as blind faith. With TIC EVERYTHING he is asking us all to believe is based on blind faith in him and those he relies on to make him self feel special. He has yet to produce anything to back up that blind faith and is simply playing Devil's advocate for the look of it.

If he had any knowledge about anything it would be game changing and he would not hesitate to share it.

He has a shit hand and should have folded months ago.

Yet you know FOR CERTAIN how evil Trump supporters are




You don't know if the pistons are going in your car? OK start it and press the gas, if the engine revs then the pistons are going. Do you understand the process it takes for a product to make it to a store shelf? Probably not. But yeah fair to say the American FDA and the UK's MHRA have given the product in question a thorough set of examinations and believe you me it is at a COST to the producer. No need to actually do a drug to use the scientific method to observe the effects or study them....pretty basic common sense about the concrete, again something which can be easily tested.



If the vaccine works why is government still demanding people wear masks and hell I wore the mask, I still caught the fucking COVID, I followed the rules, still caught it....so what do I risk by NOT wearing the mask? Already had the thing the mask was supposed to keep me from getting....oh that's right I need to double up on the mask and then triple up on them.



Better stay in that bunker mate It's the only way to be sure.

[Beanz]

El Kabong were you born an arse hole or did it take years of work to refine it to such an artform?

I can assure you I have not been living in a bunker and that I never make the lazy assumptions that you and TIC do about other people.

Again you have had months to tell us all your startling insights, in fact in your case years to back up your bullshit, and yet you have produced nothing.

Anyone can snipe mate and shoot down an argument someone else is not making, but it ain't very helpful and does you no favours.

[Beanz]

You Brock and TIC should start your own anti vaxxer thread and fucking howl into the void.

You all seem to love any excuse to extend the misery.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

"Me, TIC and Lyle"

by of Arabia

The 3 of you
the triple demon
all anti-vaxxx
and mad and screamin'

'twas disingen
uous of you
to lump us all
just like a _ _ _ (rhymes with "fog")

but then again
it makes you feel
like enemies
are trounced in your zeal

but keep on eating
your lamb and veal
cuz meat and stuff
is in your wheel

house now you've bought
a stately palace
and Gandalf was right
your name is Alice

[walrus]

Ok got my second dose. It was actually drive through. You sit in your car as you get the shit, drive to a different spot and wait 15 minutes. You honk ur horn if you start feeling sick. About 3 minutes after the shot vertigo set in which is now getting worse. This is exactly what I went through with my first shot. The nurse who injected me said side effects are usually more pronounced 2nd time around. My plan was to head to work after the shot but spinning head is preventing that. My boss txt me which means things are desperate but what can I do? I don’t want to drive off the road or hit someone

[Master]

Ok got my second dose. It was actually drive through. You sit in your car as you get the shit, drive to a different spot and wait 15 minutes. You honk ur horn if you start feeling sick. About 3 minutes after the shot vertigo set in which is now getting worse. This is exactly what I went through with my first shot. The nurse who injected me said side effects are usually more pronounced 2nd time around. My plan was to head to work after the shot but spinning head is preventing that. My boss txt me which means things are desperate but what can I do? I don’t want to drive off the road or hit someone

Stay at home and stay safe. Forget work for today.

[El Kabong]

El Kabong were you born an arse hole or did it take years of work to refine it to such an artform?

I can assure you I have not been living in a bunker and that I never make the lazy assumptions that you and TIC do about other people.

Again you have had months to tell us all your startling insights, in fact in your case years to back up your bullshit, and yet you have produced nothing.

Anyone can snipe mate and shoot down an argument someone else is not making, but it ain't very helpful and does you no favours.

I NEVER make the lazy assumptions that you and TIC do, YOU RACIST!!!! & Anyone can snipe mate and shoot down an argument someone else is not making ...... is self reflection illegal in Plymouth or are you just that oblivious?

You Brock and TIC should start your own anti vaxxer thread and fucking howl into the void.

You all seem to love any excuse to extend the misery.

Who said I'm anti-vaxx? All I did was ask pretty logical questions if the vaccine works why mask up? If states on the highest level lockdowns fair WORSE than states like Florida why lock down? If the mask & 6 feet & hand sanitizer works, why/how did I get COVID? Do you just do what you're told? And you're trying to warn ME about fascism? Dude, ask a few questions.....or you know, ride it out in the bunker, whatever.

[Beanz]

El Kabong were you born an arse hole or did it take years of work to refine it to such an artform?

I can assure you I have not been living in a bunker and that I never make the lazy assumptions that you and TIC do about other people.

Again you have had months to tell us all your startling insights, in fact in your case years to back up your bullshit, and yet you have produced nothing.

Anyone can snipe mate and shoot down an argument someone else is not making, but it ain't very helpful and does you no favours.

I NEVER make the lazy assumptions that you and TIC do, YOU RACIST!!!! & Anyone can snipe mate and shoot down an argument someone else is not making ...... is self reflection illegal in Plymouth or are you just that oblivious?

You Brock and TIC should start your own anti vaxxer thread and fucking howl into the void.

You all seem to love any excuse to extend the misery.

Who said I'm anti-vaxx? All I did was ask pretty logical questions if the vaccine works why mask up? If states on the highest level lockdowns fair WORSE than states like Florida why lock down? If the mask & 6 feet & hand sanitizer works, why/how did I get COVID? Do you just do what you're told? And you're trying to warn ME about fascism? Dude, ask a few questions.....or you know, ride it out in the bunker, whatever.

You sound incredibly fragile, stupid and selfish. The vaccines are there to stop you getting very ill or dying should you contract covid not to stop you spreading it to others. That is why you are being encouraged to wear a mask. You moaned about wearing a mask and then still wore it anyway and now are pretending that you didn't. Make your mind up. Your life is very different to mine and yet despite that i still have not been living in a bunker. You keep saying that just like TIC as though that would vindicate you both as heroes. and reveal me to be a coward. There is not a grain of truth in it though. That is pretty twisted psychology from the pair of you. I have continued to work despite the pandemic and despite being surrounded by very vulnerable people have just exercised common sense, and try to show a bit of extra concern and kindness to everyone else considering how hard it is for everyone.


You seem to have massive issues and i hope you can get over them soon.

Listen to yourself comparing mask wearing to fascism but defending actual fascists attacking your own country and it's core values.

You sure you are OK?

Maybe lay off the weed for a bit

[El Kabong]

You sound incredibly fragile, stupid and selfish. The vaccines are there to stop you getting very ill or dying should you contract covid not to stop you spreading it to others. That is why you are being encouraged to wear a mask. You moaned about wearing a mask and then still wore it anyway and now are pretending that you didn't. Make your mind up. Your life is very different to mine and yet despite that i still have not been living in a bunker. You keep saying that just like TIC as though that would vindicate you both as heroes. and reveal me to be a coward. There is not a grain of truth in it though. That is pretty twisted psychology from the pair of you. I have continued to work despite the pandemic and despite being surrounded by very vulnerable people have just exercised common sense, and try to show a bit of extra concern and kindness to everyone else considering how hard it is for everyone.


You seem to have massive issues and i hope you can get over them soon.

Listen to yourself comparing mask wearing to fascism but defending actual fascists attacking your own country and it's core values.

You sure you are OK?

Maybe lay off the weed for a bit

Do you miss everybody's points or just mine? I don't know whether to feel special or to pity you and your miserable reading comprehension

[Kirkland Laing]

I have to disagree. Philosophically this is not just shaky ground. It is a cliff face.

Life necessitates that we believe things without knowing them every day. You don't open up your engine to make sure the pistons are going, you don't check to make sure every product you buy has the ingredients it says it does by chemically analysing it, you don't take that third hit on a crack pipe to prove how addictive it can be, you don't spar on concrete because you have been knocked out and fractured your skull falling onto it.

We run our lives on belief. That is not the same thing as blind faith. With TIC EVERYTHING he is asking us all to believe is based on blind faith in him and those he relies on to make him self feel special. He has yet to produce anything to back up that blind faith and is simply playing Devil's advocate for the look of it.

If he had any knowledge about anything it would be game changing and he would not hesitate to share it.

He has a shit hand and should have folded months ago.

Yet you know FOR CERTAIN how evil Trump supporters are




You don't know if the pistons are going in your car? OK start it and press the gas, if the engine revs then the pistons are going. Do you understand the process it takes for a product to make it to a store shelf? Probably not. But yeah fair to say the American FDA and the UK's MHRA have given the product in question a thorough set of examinations and believe you me it is at a COST to the producer. No need to actually do a drug to use the scientific method to observe the effects or study them....pretty basic common sense about the concrete, again something which can be easily tested.



If the vaccine works why is government still demanding people wear masks and hell I wore the mask, I still caught the fucking COVID, I followed the rules, still caught it....so what do I risk by NOT wearing the mask? Already had the thing the mask was supposed to keep me from getting....oh that's right I need to double up on the mask and then triple up on them.



Better stay in that bunker mate It's the only way to be sure.

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

[walrus]

I have to disagree. Philosophically this is not just shaky ground. It is a cliff face.

Life necessitates that we believe things without knowing them every day. You don't open up your engine to make sure the pistons are going, you don't check to make sure every product you buy has the ingredients it says it does by chemically analysing it, you don't take that third hit on a crack pipe to prove how addictive it can be, you don't spar on concrete because you have been knocked out and fractured your skull falling onto it.

We run our lives on belief. That is not the same thing as blind faith. With TIC EVERYTHING he is asking us all to believe is based on blind faith in him and those he relies on to make him self feel special. He has yet to produce anything to back up that blind faith and is simply playing Devil's advocate for the look of it.

If he had any knowledge about anything it would be game changing and he would not hesitate to share it.

He has a shit hand and should have folded months ago.

Yet you know FOR CERTAIN how evil Trump supporters are




You don't know if the pistons are going in your car? OK start it and press the gas, if the engine revs then the pistons are going. Do you understand the process it takes for a product to make it to a store shelf? Probably not. But yeah fair to say the American FDA and the UK's MHRA have given the product in question a thorough set of examinations and believe you me it is at a COST to the producer. No need to actually do a drug to use the scientific method to observe the effects or study them....pretty basic common sense about the concrete, again something which can be easily tested.



If the vaccine works why is government still demanding people wear masks and hell I wore the mask, I still caught the fucking COVID, I followed the rules, still caught it....so what do I risk by NOT wearing the mask? Already had the thing the mask was supposed to keep me from getting....oh that's right I need to double up on the mask and then triple up on them.



Better stay in that bunker mate It's the only way to be sure.

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Seatbelts? Two reasons in the US at least. The insurance companies and cops like it because It gives then another reason to pull you over

[El Kabong]

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Why aren't there seatbelts & airbags on motorcycles then? Why can you still drive cars without shoulder belts & airbags without any penalty? Why can I ride in the bed of a pickup truck without any penalty?


You have 0 respect for liberty or your fellow citizen.


"If I had a superpower"....it wouldn't be self reflection I can tell you that much.



LOL who kept me alive when I had COVID? I did...didn't even really have to try all that hard either

[Beanz]

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Why aren't there seatbelts & airbags on motorcycles then? Why can you still drive cars without shoulder belts & airbags without any penalty? Why can I ride in the bed of a pickup truck without any penalty?


You have 0 respect for liberty or your fellow citizen.


"If I had a superpower"....it wouldn't be self reflection I can tell you that much.



LOL who kept me alive when I had COVID? I did...didn't even really have to try all that hard either

You sound like you are morphing into Gandalf.

You not being seriously ill with Covid is not anything to do with how hard you tried, you horrible shallow bastard.

Do you not think those millions that have died did not fight to their last dying breath?


The great thing about seatbelts is it stops you injuring other people too. Those in front of you if you are in the back or others outside if you go through the windscreen. That is not so different with masks. NOT YOU. OTHER PEOPLE.

Why would someone have to explain that to you?

Do you think other people's liberty is not as important as your own?


You don't do you? You have already said as much