Covid- 19 - Second wave

[Kirkland Laing]

I have to disagree. Philosophically this is not just shaky ground. It is a cliff face.

Life necessitates that we believe things without knowing them every day. You don't open up your engine to make sure the pistons are going, you don't check to make sure every product you buy has the ingredients it says it does by chemically analysing it, you don't take that third hit on a crack pipe to prove how addictive it can be, you don't spar on concrete because you have been knocked out and fractured your skull falling onto it.

We run our lives on belief. That is not the same thing as blind faith. With TIC EVERYTHING he is asking us all to believe is based on blind faith in him and those he relies on to make him self feel special. He has yet to produce anything to back up that blind faith and is simply playing Devil's advocate for the look of it.

If he had any knowledge about anything it would be game changing and he would not hesitate to share it.

He has a shit hand and should have folded months ago.

Yet you know FOR CERTAIN how evil Trump supporters are




You don't know if the pistons are going in your car? OK start it and press the gas, if the engine revs then the pistons are going. Do you understand the process it takes for a product to make it to a store shelf? Probably not. But yeah fair to say the American FDA and the UK's MHRA have given the product in question a thorough set of examinations and believe you me it is at a COST to the producer. No need to actually do a drug to use the scientific method to observe the effects or study them....pretty basic common sense about the concrete, again something which can be easily tested.



If the vaccine works why is government still demanding people wear masks and hell I wore the mask, I still caught the fucking COVID, I followed the rules, still caught it....so what do I risk by NOT wearing the mask? Already had the thing the mask was supposed to keep me from getting....oh that's right I need to double up on the mask and then triple up on them.



Better stay in that bunker mate It's the only way to be sure.

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

[walrus]

I have to disagree. Philosophically this is not just shaky ground. It is a cliff face.

Life necessitates that we believe things without knowing them every day. You don't open up your engine to make sure the pistons are going, you don't check to make sure every product you buy has the ingredients it says it does by chemically analysing it, you don't take that third hit on a crack pipe to prove how addictive it can be, you don't spar on concrete because you have been knocked out and fractured your skull falling onto it.

We run our lives on belief. That is not the same thing as blind faith. With TIC EVERYTHING he is asking us all to believe is based on blind faith in him and those he relies on to make him self feel special. He has yet to produce anything to back up that blind faith and is simply playing Devil's advocate for the look of it.

If he had any knowledge about anything it would be game changing and he would not hesitate to share it.

He has a shit hand and should have folded months ago.

Yet you know FOR CERTAIN how evil Trump supporters are




You don't know if the pistons are going in your car? OK start it and press the gas, if the engine revs then the pistons are going. Do you understand the process it takes for a product to make it to a store shelf? Probably not. But yeah fair to say the American FDA and the UK's MHRA have given the product in question a thorough set of examinations and believe you me it is at a COST to the producer. No need to actually do a drug to use the scientific method to observe the effects or study them....pretty basic common sense about the concrete, again something which can be easily tested.



If the vaccine works why is government still demanding people wear masks and hell I wore the mask, I still caught the fucking COVID, I followed the rules, still caught it....so what do I risk by NOT wearing the mask? Already had the thing the mask was supposed to keep me from getting....oh that's right I need to double up on the mask and then triple up on them.



Better stay in that bunker mate It's the only way to be sure.

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Seatbelts? Two reasons in the US at least. The insurance companies and cops like it because It gives then another reason to pull you over

[El Kabong]

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Why aren't there seatbelts & airbags on motorcycles then? Why can you still drive cars without shoulder belts & airbags without any penalty? Why can I ride in the bed of a pickup truck without any penalty?


You have 0 respect for liberty or your fellow citizen.


"If I had a superpower"....it wouldn't be self reflection I can tell you that much.



LOL who kept me alive when I had COVID? I did...didn't even really have to try all that hard either

[Beanz]

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Why aren't there seatbelts & airbags on motorcycles then? Why can you still drive cars without shoulder belts & airbags without any penalty? Why can I ride in the bed of a pickup truck without any penalty?


You have 0 respect for liberty or your fellow citizen.


"If I had a superpower"....it wouldn't be self reflection I can tell you that much.



LOL who kept me alive when I had COVID? I did...didn't even really have to try all that hard either

You sound like you are morphing into Gandalf.

You not being seriously ill with Covid is not anything to do with how hard you tried, you horrible shallow bastard.

Do you not think those millions that have died did not fight to their last dying breath?


The great thing about seatbelts is it stops you injuring other people too. Those in front of you if you are in the back or others outside if you go through the windscreen. That is not so different with masks. NOT YOU. OTHER PEOPLE.

Why would someone have to explain that to you?

Do you think other people's liberty is not as important as your own?


You don't do you? You have already said as much

[El Kabong]

You sound like you are morphing into Gandalf.

You not being seriously ill with Covid is not anything to do with how hard you tried, you horrible shallow bastard.

Do you not think those millions that have died did not fight to their last dying breath?


The great thing about seatbelts is it stops you injuring other people too. Those in front of you if you are in the back or others outside if you go through the windscreen. That is not so different with masks. NOT YOU. OTHER PEOPLE.

Why would someone have to explain that to you?

Do you think other people's liberty is not as important as your own?


You don't do you? You have already said as much

Like you'd treat me any different if I did.


I see you've missed my point....again.....can't say I'm surprised.





"Do you think other people's liberty is not as important as your own?"


That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life...and you doubled down on it too....My God

"You don't do you?"

[El Kabong]

Police in dorms, outdoor exercise ban: UC Berkeley extends dorm lockdown with stricter mandates
https://www.sfgate.com/education/art...-ACXAWHTXWcy0E

"We are working with the city of Berkeley to determine whether outdoor exercise may be permitted, and we will provide more information on this in the near future," reads a memo from the university on the matter.

The policies that remain in effect for students include not leaving their rooms unless it is to obtain a COVID-19 test or medical care (including mental health care), use the bathroom or grab food from the dining halls.

[Beanz]

You sound like you are morphing into Gandalf.

You not being seriously ill with Covid is not anything to do with how hard you tried, you horrible shallow bastard.

Do you not think those millions that have died did not fight to their last dying breath?


The great thing about seatbelts is it stops you injuring other people too. Those in front of you if you are in the back or others outside if you go through the windscreen. That is not so different with masks. NOT YOU. OTHER PEOPLE.

Why would someone have to explain that to you?

Do you think other people's liberty is not as important as your own?


You don't do you? You have already said as much

Like you'd treat me any different if I did.


I see you've missed my point....again.....can't say I'm surprised.





"Do you think other people's liberty is not as important as your own?"


That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life...and you doubled down on it too....My God

"You don't do you?"

It is not rocket science.

As a practicing Christian surely the health, safety and well being of others is more important than a minor inconvenience to you?

You putting them at risk would be an infringement of their liberties.

The whole world is not just about you. That is part of the reason you wear a mask and fasten your seatbelt.

You are far more wedded to your peculiar selfish brand of politics than to any concern for others it seems.

You think because you did not suffer badly from Covid that somehow that makes you proof that masks and the lockdown measures are unnecessary.

Because you were alright Jack.

Common sense and safety measures are not the same thing as infringing on your man made illusion of liberty.

Liberty is about as realistic as the false choice given to Adam and Eve.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

wait....... "the false choice given to Adam & Eve".....? Now THIS I gotta hear! Do explain.

[Beanz]

wait....... "the false choice given to Adam & Eve".....? Now THIS I gotta hear! Do explain.

Like Orwell I do not believe that Liberty is anything but an illusion. It is not something that Parliament protects at all in the UK but rather something that the British people are guardians over and even then it is not absolute. In times of war like this fight against Covid it is essential that many of them are curtailed.

Just like the false choice given to Adam and Eve. Gd punishes Adam and Eve for choosing to eat from the tree and yet it is not until they do so that they are gifted the knowledge of good and bad. How could they know that what they were doing was bad? What kind of Gd is this? It is a false choice.

Unlike the very twisted idea of Christians that all future generations are now inherently sinful for something they could not possibly be responsible for, Jews believe that every human being is responsible for their own moral character and destiny.

Defying your parents is good. Rebelling is how we learn. You should always question Gd, shake your fist at him etc.

It is also responsible for horrible ideas like the bell curve and women being devious and second class.

[Kirkland Laing]

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Why aren't there seatbelts & airbags on motorcycles then? Why can you still drive cars without shoulder belts & airbags without any penalty? Why can I ride in the bed of a pickup truck without any penalty?


You have 0 respect for liberty or your fellow citizen.


"If I had a superpower"....it wouldn't be self reflection I can tell you that much.



LOL who kept me alive when I had COVID? I did...didn't even really have to try all that hard either

It's impossible that even you are this stupid. This is a pathetic attempt at trolling. If you did have the virus it would come as no surprise. Hopefully you didn't manage to kill somebody else with it although thoughtless idiots like you do that every day.

[Kirkland Laing]

If seatbelts work why do we need airbags? If airbags work why do we need brakes?

Idiot.

Nature wants you dead at fifty and five of your nine children to die in infancy. The fact that this doesn't happen is down to medical science and people who are thousands of times smarter than you can comprehend with your little shelf. If I had a superpower I'd pick being able to show stupid people the gulf between them and smart people, the chasm between somebody who is an expert on a subject and the average person. You'd be so shocked you'd be shamed into silence for the length of time the information managed to stay on your shelf.

You have over a decade now of making endless breathtakingly moronic posts like this. Youhave proved beyond reasonable doubt that you have the cognitive ability and reasoning power of a fucking lettuce. For god's sake due to your unfortunate disability just do what the experts are telling you to do eh. Hard to believe but they know better than you how to keep you and other unfortunate people you come into contact with alive.

Why aren't there seatbelts & airbags on motorcycles then? Why can you still drive cars without shoulder belts & airbags without any penalty? Why can I ride in the bed of a pickup truck without any penalty?


You have 0 respect for liberty or your fellow citizen.


"If I had a superpower"....it wouldn't be self reflection I can tell you that much.



LOL who kept me alive when I had COVID? I did...didn't even really have to try all that hard either

It's impossible that even you are this stupid. This is a pathetic attempt at trolling. If you did have the virus it would come as no surprise. Hopefully you didn't manage to kill somebody else with it although thoughtless idiots like you do that every day.

[El Kabong]

It's impossible that even you are this stupid. This is a pathetic attempt at trolling. If you did have the virus it would come as no surprise. Hopefully you didn't manage to kill somebody else with it although thoughtless idiots like you do that every day.

Why would it come as no surprise? I followed the rules, I wore the mask, I did the 6 ft distancing, I washed my hands thoroughly and used hand sanitizer. I. Did. It. All.....you can simultaneously FOLLOW THE RULES AND QUESTION THEM, those aren't mutually exclusive things.

Why would I have killed anyone else? I quarantined. My wife, our baby, and I all quarantined. Nobody broke it, not once. Not for an hour, not for a minute, not for a second, not for a nanosecond. We locked everything down and before getting back out into the world again, we cleaned the absolute hell out of all of the bedding, the surface areas, doorknobs, etc etc and then and only then did we end our quarantine.


So you were saying @Kirkland Laing ?

[Kirkland Laing]

It's impossible that even you are this stupid. This is a pathetic attempt at trolling. If you did have the virus it would come as no surprise. Hopefully you didn't manage to kill somebody else with it although thoughtless idiots like you do that every day.

Why would it come as no surprise? I followed the rules, I wore the mask, I did the 6 ft distancing, I washed my hands thoroughly and used hand sanitizer. I. Did. It. All.....you can simultaneously FOLLOW THE RULES AND QUESTION THEM, those aren't mutually exclusive things.

Why would I have killed anyone else? I quarantined. My wife, our baby, and I all quarantined. Nobody broke it, not once. Not for an hour, not for a minute, not for a second, not for a nanosecond. We locked everything down and before getting back out into the world again, we cleaned the absolute hell out of all of the bedding, the surface areas, doorknobs, etc etc and then and only then did we end our quarantine.


So you were saying @Kirkland Laing ?

From the original post I replied to if that's your level of understanding of the virus it's no surprise you caught it. It's hard to believe that it wasn't trolling it's so clueless.

[El Kabong]

From the original post I replied to if that's your level of understanding of the virus it's no surprise you caught it. It's hard to believe that it wasn't trolling it's so clueless.

So that was just you doing some wishful thinking eh? Better luck next time

[Kirkland Laing]

From the original post I replied to if that's your level of understanding of the virus it's no surprise you caught it. It's hard to believe that it wasn't trolling it's so clueless.

So that was just you doing some wishful thinking eh? Better luck next time

It's not wishful thinking, it's based on what you wrote.