Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez v Avni Yildirim

[Beanz]

This fight is ridiculous.

Fight BJS or Plant asap.

Floyd schooled Canelo.

He was old and past it and boxed his ears off!

TBE.

Floyd didn't school Canelo. He won the fight. No question. But he never hurt Canelo. Never looked stopping him. Floyd was 100% focused for the full 12. No playin.

Fury - Wilder, that's a schooling. Mayweather Gatti, That's a schooling. Schooling is when you make it look like they dont belong in the ring with you.

My personal feeling is that floyd canelo was a lot closer than people made out, yes floyd won but there were rounds where he didnt throw a punch

one early round in particular he threw one landed one, the commentators were all bumming him about it but it was a canelo round

That is true and you have to remember that just two years earlier Canelo was fighting Rhodes and Matthew Hatton, and with all the best will in the world that is some step up. It is also curious how the gap between two dominant fighters is often dictated by the timing of the bout. If the Canelo of now had met Floyd back then it may not have changed the result, but the fight would be completely different.

If he goes on and fights four times this year and stays off the beef then you have to admire the progression.

It is not just better fight plans, the guy has far more tools in his arsenal. Patience being the most devastating.

[erics44]

yeah the timing of the floyd canelo fight was everything in how it went and canelo is a completely different fighter now and much better to boot

Jamie Moore was involved in the greatest fight of all time when he knocked out Matthew Macklin but at no time has Jamie ever suggested he beat a peak Macklin, he has said a number of times on sky sports that Matt was on the way up and ended up at world title challenger level, probably should have won a world title against sturn which is a step further than Jamie went

But how often do you think you would ever hear Mayweather admit Canelo was on the way up? far from his peak?

when being frank the Canelo the fought mayweather wouldnt hear the final bell against the canelo of today

[TitoFan]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

[erics44]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

i actually said the canelo of then wouldnt see the final bell against the canelo of today

do you think he was as good then as he is now?

[TitoFan]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

i actually said the canelo of then wouldnt see the final bell against the canelo of today

do you think he was as good then as he is now?

Oops sorry... I misunderstood. But to answer your question, no. Of course he's improved. He'd almost have to, given the additional fight experience.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying the Canelo of that day wouldn't make the final bell against the Canelo of today. Today's Canelo would win... no doubt. But I don't think his progression has been all that. Honestly.

I think most of it has been calculated match-making (my forever beef with Canelo's career)... and maybe settling into a weight he should've been at long ago. He held off on Golovkin until he felt Golovkin had begun his decline.

But in all honesty Canelo could've faced Golovkin two years before. That's when the "marinating" B.S. first got coined.

[imp]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

Beautiful post.

You never mentioned the PEDS though.

Canelo is a good fighter but we don’t know how many fights he legitimately won whilst off the PEDS.

Floyd was also much smaller, dodgy hands and way out of his prime at an aging 37 years old.

Floyd is a genius in the ring.

BJS has to beat Canelo like Floyd as he’s not knocking him out.

[TIC]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

sounds like you're agreeing that mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the canelo of today. the legend continues to grow

[TitoFan]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

sounds like you're agreeing that mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the canelo of today. the legend continues to grow

your opinion

[TIC]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

sounds like you're agreeing that mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the canelo of today. the legend continues to grow

your opinion

you went on to say it would be canelo khan all over again. sounds like agreement to me. so not really mind blowing yeh

[TitoFan]

Oh boy... I can see we're getting carried away here.

People are talking as if Canelo was a 15-0 rising star, still a little wet behind the ears.

Canelo had 43 professional fights when he fought Floyd!! That is more than a full career for many fighters.

So please stop with the "Canelo was still on his way up" nonsense.

To see that followed with "Mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the Canelo of today" is even more mind-blowing.

Really??

Can we mention that Canelo is now a full-blown 168-pounder (when he isn't sneaking up to 175 or down to 160 to pick off gimpy zebras) with the chin of a light heavyweight?

Shit. This would be Canelo-Khan all over again.

I can see this legend bullshit morphing and getting a life of its own. Won't be long before TBE talk starts floating around.

sounds like you're agreeing that mayweather wouldn't hear the final bell against the canelo of today. the legend continues to grow

your opinion

you went on to say it would be canelo khan all over again. sounds like agreement to me. so not really mind blowing yeh

and you feel canelo beating khan is a great accomplishment yeh. sounds like someones bar is slightly low on accomplishments yeh

[Spicoli]

And he came up 2 weight divisions . Oh Dazn you killing me man. Would have been more honest to the fans to just walk into the ring and hand the interim belt to Arroyo.

[Kirkland Laing]

Good evening chaps. I'm not expecting much of a contest tonight. I managed to miss all but the last little bit of the previous fight. I suppose these streaming people don't have to worry about primetime advertising.

[Kirkland Laing]

I like the boots.

[palmerq]

Avni looks pretty tough at least

[palmerq]

And Garcia is even more annoying at presenting :S


Terrible corrupt mandatory challenger but wotever alvarez is really good and fun to watch, I approve of this event, at least it's a quick turnaround.