Covid- 19 - Second wave

[Beanz]

So, in the UK, the government has altered the way it calculates who should be shielding, and that extra 1.8 million people will be pushed further up the queue for vaccination.

It is people from poorer socioeconomic areas, with some underlying health issues and with a high BMI ....

Who would have thought that this government would be prioritising fat chavs?

Ha! If it actually freed up beds then who would care? but actually it is a bit more sensible than that. For the entire course of this Pandemic my Mrs who is so severely disabled that she literally has not been out unaccompanied for over 2 years now and cannot drive, is unable to walk without help for more than a few meters has not been considered disabled enough to be on the shielding list. It is crazy. So despite her being unable to shop etc without me, we could not get on the supermarket delivery lists or anything like that. Now there is at least acknowledgment that her stroke and subsequent brain damage makes her more vulnerable, and because i am her registered carer ( and my A/S and Arthritis both being immune disorders) i think we can both get the vaccine earlier that we hoped. Still have to wait but we are both in category 6 now.

Still not on the shielding list, but the clinical conditions list. I had to contact the GP the other day because her Epilepsy Meds review had not been done, and I could not order a new prescription for her online without it. Never mind the fact she needs it everyday and the GP had not contacted her Epilepsy Nurse etc. Sorted it in the end but it is quite illogical how many of these decisions are arrived at.

The Vaccine rollout is the one thing that this shambles of a Government have not given to some old chum from School and wasted Billions buggering up. So it does at least prove that the NHS can really do some things exceptionally well.

[walrus]

I’m hearing “UK variant” quite often here in the US is quite bad. I find saying “UK variant or “SA variant racist”

[X]

I’m hearing “UK variant” quite often here in the US is quite bad. I find saying “UK variant or “SA variant racist”

Well, I’m not surprised. It was the US who labelled the 1918 pandemic as ‘Spanish flu’, even though it probably originated in the US.

The Spanish had a much freer media at the time, so it was the first country to actually report the outbreak.

The ‘UK’ or ‘British’ or ‘Kent’ variant was simply gene sequenced and identified in the UK first. I doubt even COVID could have spread so far and wide during international lockdown unless it was already present in lots of places already?

It’s odd, you guys are usually keen to take the credit for stuff, like capturing the German Enigma machine or showing the Samurai how to fight wars .........

[El Kabong]

I’m hearing “UK variant” quite often here in the US is quite bad. I find saying “UK variant or “SA variant racist”

Well, I’m not surprised. It was the US who labelled the 1918 pandemic as ‘Spanish flu’, even though it probably originated in the US.

The Spanish had a much freer media at the time, so it was the first country to actually report the outbreak.

The ‘UK’ or ‘British’ or ‘Kent’ variant was simply gene sequenced and identified in the UK first. I doubt even COVID could have spread so far and wide during international lockdown unless it was already present in lots of places already?

It’s odd, you guys are usually keen to take the credit for stuff, like capturing the German Enigma machine or showing the Samurai how to fight wars .........

Spain's media was free due to their being neutral/uninvolved in WW1

[X]

​Yes, Lyle, I think that’s right - even though Franco was a bit of a proto-fascist himself

[El Kabong]

​Yes, Lyle, I think that’s right - even though Franco was a bit of a proto-fascist himself

It was 21 years til Franco took power, Alfonso XIII was King in 1918 and the Prime Ministers were: Antonio Maura, Manuel Garcia Prieto, Alvaro de Figueroa.

Alfonso caught that flu which many believe also lead to the naming of that H1N1 strain.

[walrus]

Damn got a little pissed today. My state is still pretty much locked down, I can’t see clients except on “emergency” conditions. Restaurants closing, small shops out of business crazy restrictions on so many things and today I just found out our states transmission rate is 1.6%. I probably should have been looking it up but tbh I just kind of take in my surroundings and figured we are at 10%. I have poor sob’s in a group home can’t take a walk down the street. Think how that feels for someone with mental health issues. Now granted our state is pretty high on the list of vax per capata but our governor needs to let go of these emergency powers. He was on TV and actually said “there isn’t much reason to put more restrictions on restaurants people are scared to go out to eat anyway.” Good job king you scared the shit out of everyone. But they filled the coffers on capital gains taxes and housing price increasing as we border NY and everyone in NY is scared shitless looking to move to the suburbs. Fuck me man I feel like we been scammed. And I have respect for viruses. Ever since I took several trainings on Hep C it got me interested in viruses and they are nothing to sneeze at, especially that frickin flu I had last year that shit was no joke. So yeah I’m like in the medical field but I’m no doctor or nurse or anything but I have to take this shit seriously but damn 1.6% transmission rate and I gotta work like death is around every corner, camon man I got people walking the ledge here.

[X]

I hadn’t thought of that. You’re right, if it frees up beds then it shouldn’t matter.

Im astounded about how well the vaccination programme has gone, to be honest. Everyone I spoke to who has had one has said how well organised and efficient they are. They even seem to have the electronic invitation system right, which has been a bit of an NHS Achilles heel in the past.

I don’t know what all the categories are, but I would have thought your wife would be quite high up on the list? Plus you too if you are her registered career?

Hopefully higher than Rab C. Nesbitt and Johnny Vegas anyway....

[walrus]

I just know bits and pieces of beaners wife struggles. TBH if she was US based I’m pretty sure she could have gotten it by now. I just signed a couple people up with existing conditions and found I could have done do earlier. TBH though it can be unpleasant, I’m going on a week and a half and although much better still not 100%. I think you guys are using the Oxford one perhaps you will fare better. It’s seems most people really struggle 2nd dose. One of my coworkers went this AM for his second dose he was going to call me let me know how he made out I haven’t heard from him I’m going to guess he is laid up. Hospitals had a lot of problems with sick call outs after the second dose.