Today In Biden Land

[Beanz]

Return of the strawman argument again.

I do not think anyone here has ever claimed Biden is infallible.

Most people have suggested that if Trump had not incited an attempted coup, was not so incredibly corrupt, useless at anything but filling the swamp, that there is no way he would ever have gotten elected.


Which is kind of the opposite of infallible.

Hey Beanz, don't know if you know this but President Trump was found NOT to have incited any coup.


What corruption? I mean I wouldn't ask but you've made the accusation and so you must produce the goods.

First I would like to see several examples of posters on Saddo who you have lumped together due to Biden Derangement Syndrome claiming that Biden is infallible.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...WofShdHiQQZ3R7

[El Kabong]

First I would like to see several examples of posters on Saddo who you have lumped together due to Biden Derangement Syndrome claiming that Biden is infallible.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...WofShdHiQQZ3R7

Hi, my name is Beanz and I don't understand that turnabout is fair play. Hi Beanz welcome to what's good for the goose is good for the gander anonymous.


Now for the accusations in your link

1. Instead of draining the swamp, he’s made it much dirtier.: That's the author's opinion and he doesn't seem to hold the same standard across the board.
2. He’s personally pocketed millions in taxpayer, lobbyist, donor, and foreign dollars.: Wow a whole $12 million at his properties when the government would have to pay for their accommodations anyway & if Trump was staying at one of his hotels wouldn't the Secret Service stay at the same place? How much did Hunter Biden get from Burisma and China? Hunter has yet to fully divest from that China entanglement as well....but nothing about that.
3. He’s corrupted the tax system and fudged his own taxes.: As an American tax payer I appreciate Trump making things easier and the federal government taking less of my money. Again when it comes to Trump's taxes, if he did anything wrong they would have nailed him on it, he hasn't and so they continue to be pissed off about it.
4. He’s gutted health care.: He got rid of the mandate which means if you do not wish to have insurance you don't have to have it and you don't pay a penalty/taxes for that choice...that's a GOOD thing. He also kept the price of Insulin & EpiPen's low...which Joe Biden then changed back to what it was....Hooray Biden right Beanz? Hooray making insulin unaffordable for diabetics right? Right? That's what you like about him yeah? He does the opposite of Trump
5. In the pandemic, he’s sacrificed American lives to a failed re-election strategy.: He said "the cure can't be worse than the disease" and he was right to say that because the shutting down of the economy has ruined people in many ways. Also he wasn't helped by certain governors who murdered the elderly by placing the sick in nursing homes. Trump had 0 control of that.
6. He has sought to undermine the integrity of our elections: Unlike Democrats have ever done like for example in 2016. This shit doesn't happen in a vacuum you know....or hell maybe you don't maybe you only see your side of the argument, I don't know how your brain works.
7. He has shown devotion to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin: Yeah maybe that's why instead of sending blankets to Ukraine like Obama did Trump sent missiles. Give me a fucking break it's so easy to dispute that claim and yet the author is very vague and very leading in saying "Putin has something on Trump" fuck right off with that shit that is 100% pure projection because there ARE foreign leaders who have the goods on American politicians (from both parties) CHINA being a big one: see Swalwell & Feinstein.
8. He’s engaged in repeated obstruction of justice: More Russia Russia Russia nonsense, the Steele Dossier is bullshit they (the Obama Administration) spied on Trump they got caught and they've covered it up.
9. He has tried to make the Justice Department do his corrupt bidding: More projection. Did he spy on the Biden campaign?
10. He has driven racism and racist violence.: No, there are other parties cheerfully doing that work and they're not Trump's base, they're not Republicans, they're not your average everyday person either. It's the media pushing bullshit lies and Academia pushing out Communist propaganda under the guise of Social Justice/Racial Justice. "He called the racists who marched in Charlottesville “very fine people” "...if anyone, ANYONE still buys that is what President Trump said they're too dumb to have any sort of discussion with. Are you one of those people Beanz? I mean I can provide the evidence that it's NOT what he said, I HAVE in the past provided that evidence did that just not sink in or do you just enjoy your narrative too much?

[Beanz]

First I would like to see several examples of posters on Saddo who you have lumped together due to Biden Derangement Syndrome claiming that Biden is infallible.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...WofShdHiQQZ3R7

Hi, my name is Beanz and I don't understand that turnabout is fair play. Hi Beanz welcome to what's good for the goose is good for the gander anonymous.


Now for the accusations in your link

1. Instead of draining the swamp, he’s made it much dirtier.: That's the author's opinion and he doesn't seem to hold the same standard across the board.
2. He’s personally pocketed millions in taxpayer, lobbyist, donor, and foreign dollars.: Wow a whole $12 million at his properties when the government would have to pay for their accommodations anyway & if Trump was staying at one of his hotels wouldn't the Secret Service stay at the same place? How much did Hunter Biden get from Burisma and China? Hunter has yet to fully divest from that China entanglement as well....but nothing about that.
3. He’s corrupted the tax system and fudged his own taxes.: As an American tax payer I appreciate Trump making things easier and the federal government taking less of my money. Again when it comes to Trump's taxes, if he did anything wrong they would have nailed him on it, he hasn't and so they continue to be pissed off about it.
4. He’s gutted health care.: He got rid of the mandate which means if you do not wish to have insurance you don't have to have it and you don't pay a penalty/taxes for that choice...that's a GOOD thing. He also kept the price of Insulin & EpiPen's low...which Joe Biden then changed back to what it was....Hooray Biden right Beanz? Hooray making insulin unaffordable for diabetics right? Right? That's what you like about him yeah? He does the opposite of Trump
5. In the pandemic, he’s sacrificed American lives to a failed re-election strategy.: He said "the cure can't be worse than the disease" and he was right to say that because the shutting down of the economy has ruined people in many ways. Also he wasn't helped by certain governors who murdered the elderly by placing the sick in nursing homes. Trump had 0 control of that.
6. He has sought to undermine the integrity of our elections: Unlike Democrats have ever done like for example in 2016. This shit doesn't happen in a vacuum you know....or hell maybe you don't maybe you only see your side of the argument, I don't know how your brain works.
7. He has shown devotion to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin: Yeah maybe that's why instead of sending blankets to Ukraine like Obama did Trump sent missiles. Give me a fucking break it's so easy to dispute that claim and yet the author is very vague and very leading in saying "Putin has something on Trump" fuck right off with that shit that is 100% pure projection because there ARE foreign leaders who have the goods on American politicians (from both parties) CHINA being a big one: see Swalwell & Feinstein.
8. He’s engaged in repeated obstruction of justice: More Russia Russia Russia nonsense, the Steele Dossier is bullshit they (the Obama Administration) spied on Trump they got caught and they've covered it up.
9. He has tried to make the Justice Department do his corrupt bidding: More projection. Did he spy on the Biden campaign?
10. He has driven racism and racist violence.: No, there are other parties cheerfully doing that work and they're not Trump's base, they're not Republicans, they're not your average everyday person either. It's the media pushing bullshit lies and Academia pushing out Communist propaganda under the guise of Social Justice/Racial Justice. "He called the racists who marched in Charlottesville “very fine people” "...if anyone, ANYONE still buys that is what President Trump said they're too dumb to have any sort of discussion with. Are you one of those people Beanz? I mean I can provide the evidence that it's NOT what he said, I HAVE in the past provided that evidence did that just not sink in or do you just enjoy your narrative too much?

Ha!

You bullet pointed the link?



I didn't even read it that was just to give you something to do

Anyway nice deflection but YOU made the assertion that everyone was calling Biden infallible which i told you was risible nonsense and yet you still have not provided one example to prove you were not making a strawman argument. You don't get away with it that easily.

EXAMPLES please.

This gets to the core of the problems you have been having over the last four years. I like many here, do not have a side of the argument. I am no more rooting for the Democrats and Biden or the Clintons before him, than i would be Blair and 'New Labour' or any other centrist neocon bullshit.

Unlike you I really have never bought into the mainstream media driven politics that tells you what to do and how to think.

Trump was not an outsider, he was an still is one of the Elite who proved he can get away with anything and yet here you are again not holding him accountable.

You are being played.

Get out of the swamp, because just like beetroot, it sure as hell stains.

Be your own man and use your God given brain instead of just repeating the rhetoric, propaganda and newspeak of others.

[El Kabong]

I guess you'll just have to make me Beanz.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

People see the world in totally opposite ways. Never ceases to amaze me.

[Beanz]

I guess you'll just have to make me Beanz.

Nobody thinks Biden is the new Messiah.

Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people, (many of whom are bizarrely fundamentalist evangelical Christians) who are willing to die for Trump.

Even yourself, who of course is not looking for a new Messiah or wanting to be an orange martyr, are still willing to believe and spread ridiculous conspiracies to explain his followers odd behaviour. Even you, a seemingly rational normal conservative man are willing to suspend all normal rules and conventions to excuse him an extraordinary range of lies and terrible behaviour.

So you see nobody needs to make you do anything.

You never answer questions.

Its not like it is anything new.

[Spicoli]

February 25th the year 2021. Currently 5:53 pm. Temperature locally 72 degrees with expected low of 58' and partially cloudy overnight. Tomorrow is Friday. Still your President.

[palmerq]

He's not my president :S

[TitoFan]

February 25th the year 2021. Currently 5:53 pm. Temperature locally 72 degrees with expected low of 58' and partially cloudy overnight. Tomorrow is Friday. Still your President.

B-b-b-but..... you just wait until

December 8

December 14

December 23

January 3

January 6

oh fuck.

Ok... 2024.

[El Kabong]

I guess you'll just have to make me Beanz.

Nobody thinks Biden is the new Messiah.

Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people, (many of whom are bizarrely fundamentalist evangelical Christians) who are willing to die for Trump.

Even yourself, who of course is not looking for a new Messiah or wanting to be an orange martyr, are still willing to believe and spread ridiculous conspiracies to explain his followers odd behaviour. Even you, a seemingly rational normal conservative man are willing to suspend all normal rules and conventions to excuse him an extraordinary range of lies and terrible behaviour.

So you see nobody needs to make you do anything.

You never answer questions.

Its not like it is anything new.

I already answered the question but because you didn't like it you're saying I didn't answer. That's it, that's what you're on about right now.

[El Kabong]

So none of you "Former Biden supporters"/Trump haters have shit to say about Biden bombing Syria?



The silence from you lot is deafening, you bunch of fucking hypocrites.

[Beanz]

I guess you'll just have to make me Beanz.

Nobody thinks Biden is the new Messiah.

Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people, (many of whom are bizarrely fundamentalist evangelical Christians) who are willing to die for Trump.

Even yourself, who of course is not looking for a new Messiah or wanting to be an orange martyr, are still willing to believe and spread ridiculous conspiracies to explain his followers odd behaviour. Even you, a seemingly rational normal conservative man are willing to suspend all normal rules and conventions to excuse him an extraordinary range of lies and terrible behaviour.

So you see nobody needs to make you do anything.

You never answer questions.

Its not like it is anything new.

I already answered the question but because you didn't like it you're saying I didn't answer. That's it, that's what you're on about right now.

No that is not it at all

"First I would like to see several examples of posters on Saddo who you have lumped together due to Biden Derangement Syndrome claiming that Biden is infallible. "

That seems to be the crux of your argument with a hell of a lot of people right across the political spectrum, from left to right, and the apolitical too. That rather than construct a decent argument, you would rather make one for them that reflects your own ludicrously crass position of thinking that some politicians are infallible or at least mostly beyond reproach. Nobody actually has suggested that is what they think though.

You are not alone in backing yourself into an ideological corner, there are a few here who spent years saying nothing as Trump spouted lie after lie, but they were silent and yet now they want to scrutinize others with a far more powerful and unforgiving microscope.

There is no balance there at all. Just you weighting everything in your favour like you have for years.

A bit like you and your fellow posters blind spot to your own constant hostility and negativity. It is in everything you post, and has been for literally years now.