Covid- 19 - Second wave

[Dia bando]

new zealand had a civil defense warning today. all the bullshit covid measures were overridden by the civil defense instructions

Shut up you Bum🦘🦘🦘😆

[El Kabong]

I still feel like we're getting mixed signals in regards to COVID. I mean Biden says go through all the mask, vaccine, distancing stuff. Fauci says shit like we might not be able to ever have indoor dining ever again, Texas & Mississippi Governors have removed mask mandates.....and illegal immigrants are allowed in and are free to travel within the US even if they pop positive for COVID.


So as a person who has had it, and had a peach of a time with it.... I just throw my hands up at this point. I don't trust these folks, I don't trust the WHO, I don't necessarily trust the CDC, I certainly don't trust Fauci who will say literally anything depending on the audience. I've had it, it wasn't bad FOR ME (and for my family) and we're all very lucky that was the case. It was different than anything I've ever had before, I don't want it again, but I'd take it over what the flu usually does.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I still feel like we're getting mixed signals in regards to COVID. I mean Biden says go through all the mask, vaccine, distancing stuff. Fauci says shit like we might not be able to ever have indoor dining ever again, Texas & Mississippi Governors have removed mask mandates.....and illegal immigrants are allowed in and are free to travel within the US even if they pop positive for COVID.


So as a person who has had it, and had a peach of a time with it.... I just throw my hands up at this point. I don't trust these folks, I don't trust the WHO, I don't necessarily trust the CDC, I certainly don't trust Fauci who will say literally anything depending on the audience. I've had it, it wasn't bad FOR ME (and for my family) and we're all very lucky that was the case. It was different than anything I've ever had before, I don't want it again, but I'd take it over what the flu usually does.

Agree with all that, its maddening and mixed sigs. I did an experiment yesterday. I called 6 of my all-time GOAT Indian/Pakistani Buffet restaurants in Jersey City, New Jersey, and I found out they HAVENT EVEN HAD THE BUFFET for MONTHS. INdoor dining at 25% as of yesterday though. I then called 4 of my regular Buffet Restaurants here up in Irving, Texas yesterday: ALL 4 ARE OPEN AND SAY THEY NEVER SHUT DOWN THE BUFFET, EVER, SINCE THIS BEGAN. They are at 75% capacity since December 2020, and also all going to 100% capacity in 48 hours from now, MASK-FREE.

How fucking much bigger of a contrast CAN YOU GET THAN THAT? I wish I knew what the fuck .

[TIC]

new zealand had a civil defense warning today. all the bullshit covid measures were overridden by the civil defense instructions

Shut up you Bum🦘🦘🦘😆

stay afraid of an imaginary boogeyman coward, just keep believing what you're told instead of knowing for yourself

[Beanz]

At this point TIC even to the most skeptical you just sound like the Black Knight

You ain't ever going to let that bone go are you?



"Running away eh? You yellow bastard come back here and take what's coming to you"

[Dia bando]

new zealand had a civil defense warning today. all the bullshit covid measures were overridden by the civil defense instructions

Shut up you Bum🦘🦘🦘😆

stay afraid of an imaginary boogeyman coward, just keep believing what you're told instead of knowing for yourself

Your a childish Bum 😂

[El Kabong]

Anyone remember the flu? Anyone?

[Beanz]

Anyone remember the flu? Anyone?

Everyone I would imagine. Mrs has the flu vaccine every year, it is not like anybody ever denied that the flu could be pretty nasty for some people. It ain't Covid though is it? Your point?

[Gandalf]

Anyone remember the flu? Anyone?

Everyone I would imagine. Mrs has the flu vaccine every year, it is not like anybody ever denied that the flu could be pretty nasty for some people. It ain't Covid though is it? Your point?

Even the flu vaccine killed more than a hundred people here last year.

My contention with the vaccines for Covid is that they have been rushed out quickly without thorough investigation. We saw the results of what that can mean with the Swine Flu vaccine pretty much forced on NHS workers who then had awful side effects which saw them unable to work and then years of legal action thereafter.

With these vaccines all you have seen are the short term side effects, we simply do not know the long term side effects yet and this is why I see the general populace as guinea pigs right now. Did you get the swine flu vaccine? I certainly did not. Yet with this they pretty much want everyone to have it and you already have. Even Bill Gates casually brushed off how trials and research would need to be skipped and here you all are taking the shot into the unknown.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

"I'm not a Lab Rat"

by OrangeClock


I'm this and I'm that
No pun intended
The vaxxxine is Shat
And not recommended

Unless you're in haste
For some unknown reason
Some say its a waste
But now is flu season

So roll that sleeve up cuz:

"""Choosing stupidly not to get vaccinated isn’t “freedom” any more than driving drunk is. It’s endangering other people's lives. It is profoundly unethical. It is evil. And it, too, is coercive; the anti-vaxxer is forcing me to swim in their viral discharge, anytime we share space in public.

So, what then? Anti-vaxxers are like drunk drivers, but we can’t force them to get vaccinated. Are we just stuck with an evil and dangerous minority ruining life and endangering health for everyone else?"""

This they are saying
But they can go fuck themselves

[El Kabong]

Anyone remember the flu? Anyone?

Everyone I would imagine. Mrs has the flu vaccine every year, it is not like anybody ever denied that the flu could be pretty nasty for some people. It ain't Covid though is it? Your point?

But what of flu numbers? Know anyone who has had the flu lately? "Oh well the numbers are down due to the masks & social distancing" is the typical response, but if that works for the flu why not COVID? The flu can indeed be VERY bad and kills plenty of people every year even children. I just wonder about if SOME people with "COVID" actually suffered from the flu.


Now I've had COVID, I've had the flu....if you told me "You can have COVID or the flu" based on my own personal experiences with both I'd take COVID 100 times out of 100....that's my own personal view. It's based on my own personal experiences (and seeing my entire family's experiences) with both.


I guess people might get offended by that or think I'm nuts, but honest to God, my wife, my daughter, my mom, my dad, and I all had COVID....I've had hangnails that have given me more trouble. Granted that's just OUR experiences, but when the absolute very worst the virus gave me was a few hours of no taste & no smell and for my wife a fever for a few hours....yeah I begin to question a lot of things. I'm not denying people die from it, I'm not saying it's not real, I'm not saying "go out & try to catch it, it's super fun", I'm just saying either me & my family are extraordinarily very lucky OR the virus isn't as bad as advertised for healthy people.


Take it however you want.

[TitoFan]

Anyone remember the flu? Anyone?

Everyone I would imagine. Mrs has the flu vaccine every year, it is not like anybody ever denied that the flu could be pretty nasty for some people. It ain't Covid though is it? Your point?

But what of flu numbers? Know anyone who has had the flu lately? "Oh well the numbers are down due to the masks & social distancing" is the typical response, but if that works for the flu why not COVID? The flu can indeed be VERY bad and kills plenty of people every year even children. I just wonder about if SOME people with "COVID" actually suffered from the flu.


Now I've had COVID, I've had the flu....if you told me "You can have COVID or the flu" based on my own personal experiences with both I'd take COVID 100 times out of 100....that's my own personal view. It's based on my own personal experiences (and seeing my entire family's experiences) with both.


I guess people might get offended by that or think I'm nuts, but honest to God, my wife, my daughter, my mom, my dad, and I all had COVID....I've had hangnails that have given me more trouble. Granted that's just OUR experiences, but when the absolute very worst the virus gave me was a few hours of no taste & no smell and for my wife a fever for a few hours....yeah I begin to question a lot of things. I'm not denying people die from it, I'm not saying it's not real, I'm not saying "go out & try to catch it, it's super fun", I'm just saying either me & my family are extraordinarily very lucky OR the virus isn't as bad as advertised for healthy people.


Take it however you want.

I believe you and your family were extraordinarily lucky... and we should all be thankful for that.

I myself had it, and experienced relatively mild symptoms for about a week and a half. I say this hesitatingly, as I've always made it my practice to divulge as little as possible about my personal life here... particularly upon seeing how these things become personal attack targets very easily.

I have, however, known of people close to me and some I've just known casually who have had a considerable worse go of it. Some have died. And they haven't all been frail, sickly people either. So I hesitate to generalize about who gets sicker than who. All I know is it's a real disease, known to have killed millions of people worldwide.

I just think we all tend to make mountains out of molehills. Everything is a conspiracy. Everything is a lie. Everything is some obscure and twisted attempt to brainwash people into something. Amazing how we can't seem to just take things at face value. Always gotta be digging and digging. And since people have nothing more to fight about... they fight about mask usage and shit like that.

Hell... look at all the vaccination controversy. "It'll kill you"... "They're gonna implant a chip in you"... "There's a sinister plot behind the vaccinations"... etc, etc, etc. Never mind that some of us are old enough to remember getting vaccines in the past for diseases of those times. Measles, chickenpox, etc. Thankfully there wasn't any of the ridiculous, conspiracy-theory-laden, useless bullshit we see nowadays. You got your shot... and moved on with your life.

I'm sure the forum conspiracy theorist will be along any minute now, which is why I post very little on this thread. But I'll pay as much attention to whatever he has to say as I do to the grass growing in my backyard.

[Beanz]

Anyone remember the flu? Anyone?

Everyone I would imagine. Mrs has the flu vaccine every year, it is not like anybody ever denied that the flu could be pretty nasty for some people. It ain't Covid though is it? Your point?

But what of flu numbers? Know anyone who has had the flu lately? "Oh well the numbers are down due to the masks & social distancing" is the typical response, but if that works for the flu why not COVID? The flu can indeed be VERY bad and kills plenty of people every year even children. I just wonder about if SOME people with "COVID" actually suffered from the flu.


Now I've had COVID, I've had the flu....if you told me "You can have COVID or the flu" based on my own personal experiences with both I'd take COVID 100 times out of 100....that's my own personal view. It's based on my own personal experiences (and seeing my entire family's experiences) with both.


I guess people might get offended by that or think I'm nuts, but honest to God, my wife, my daughter, my mom, my dad, and I all had COVID....I've had hangnails that have given me more trouble. Granted that's just OUR experiences, but when the absolute very worst the virus gave me was a few hours of no taste & no smell and for my wife a fever for a few hours....yeah I begin to question a lot of things. I'm not denying people die from it, I'm not saying it's not real, I'm not saying "go out & try to catch it, it's super fun", I'm just saying either me & my family are extraordinarily very lucky OR the virus isn't as bad as advertised for healthy people.


Take it however you want.

Most vulnerable people in this country have had a flu shot for years and so will have not gotten very ill with the flu. I think you and your family were lucky but i also think your 'healthy' people point of view really, really fucking sucks.

One of my younger sisters caught covid and she is not even thirty, but it put her in hospital. Her twin was fine and like all of us has the gene that makes Ankolysing Spondylitis a factor in our lives. It does not mean that usually she is unfit, quite the opposite, but her inherited disease makes her vulnerable. There have been plenty of other examples of very fit people getting ill also in a way that flu would very rarely have done so. Flu would not have posed the same problems at all for my sister, even though like you say, for some, even the flu can be fatal. I would understand your skepticism if it were based in a rational set of reasons, but you are asking people to make huge imaginary leaps to give your theory credence. The last thing international capitalist societies and corporations want is to stop people earning and spending money, and so quite why they would, after having no option, choose to introduce the measures they have if Covid really was less serious than the flu, makes no sense at all.

Not everybody who is not 'Healthy' is so because of their own laziness, bad habits or failure to use common sense. We are all living longer on a more and more polluted planet, and so disability and disease,will. however fit you keep yourself very likely become a part of your life.

There is (not you) a bit of a Eugenics "pull your socks up it is your fault and if your just drank protein shakes like me you would not be ill" kind of bullshit undercurrent here on the forum, and the same thing exists in wider society. It would have been nice if all the lockdowns had helped people to understand what is is like for a sizeable chunk of the population who can never go out without help, and have for their entire lives faced the kind of isolation we all now understand a bit better.