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    Default Re: George Floyd murdered by cops

    This... from a NY Post article:

    "He could get up to four decades behind bars for the top count of second-degree murder. The second count of of third degree murder carries a penalty of up to 25 years, but he will only be sentenced on the top count as per state law, said Samuel McCloud, who has practiced criminal law in Minnesota for 44 years.

    The third count he was convicted of, second-degree manslaughter, carries a 10-year maximum — but he also will not face sentencing on that count as per state law, McCloud said.

    While second-degree murder carries a “statutory maximum” of 40 years in the state, Chauvin will likely face far less time when he is sentenced, as per state sentencing guidelines.

    The guidelines call for about 12 years in prison for Chauvin, but prosecutors have asked for an “upward departure” from that, which could add a number of years to the sentence, former prosecutor Susan Gaertner said."



    It's ok to quote the NY Post, right? Because I know all media is shit.



    Anyway, 12 years in protective custody is a sham of a sentence to hand out to a White Supremacist murderer.

    It's an empty victory, having convicted him of three charges, the most serious being 2nd-degree murder.

    I wonder what "guidelines" they're referring to.

    Are these the guidelines where they treat White Supremacist murdering cops different than the rest of the population? Those guidelines?

    Now I'M the one who's confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    This... from a NY Post article:

    "He could get up to four decades behind bars for the top count of second-degree murder. The second count of of third degree murder carries a penalty of up to 25 years, but he will only be sentenced on the top count as per state law, said Samuel McCloud, who has practiced criminal law in Minnesota for 44 years.

    The third count he was convicted of, second-degree manslaughter, carries a 10-year maximum — but he also will not face sentencing on that count as per state law, McCloud said.

    While second-degree murder carries a “statutory maximum” of 40 years in the state, Chauvin will likely face far less time when he is sentenced, as per state sentencing guidelines.

    The guidelines call for about 12 years in prison for Chauvin, but prosecutors have asked for an “upward departure” from that, which could add a number of years to the sentence, former prosecutor Susan Gaertner said."



    It's ok to quote the NY Post, right? Because I know all media is shit.



    Anyway, 12 years in protective custody is a sham of a sentence to hand out to a White Supremacist murderer.

    It's an empty victory, having convicted him of three charges, the most serious being 2nd-degree murder.

    I wonder what "guidelines" they're referring to.

    Are these the guidelines where they treat White Supremacist murdering cops different than the rest of the population? Those guidelines?

    Now I'M the one who's confused.
    In all honesty I don’t think race was even brought up during the trial. I did a quick search but of course the results were “racist” etc I was just trying to see if it was brought up during the trial as far as I can tell it wasn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    This... from a NY Post article:

    "He could get up to four decades behind bars for the top count of second-degree murder. The second count of of third degree murder carries a penalty of up to 25 years, but he will only be sentenced on the top count as per state law, said Samuel McCloud, who has practiced criminal law in Minnesota for 44 years.

    The third count he was convicted of, second-degree manslaughter, carries a 10-year maximum — but he also will not face sentencing on that count as per state law, McCloud said.

    While second-degree murder carries a “statutory maximum” of 40 years in the state, Chauvin will likely face far less time when he is sentenced, as per state sentencing guidelines.

    The guidelines call for about 12 years in prison for Chauvin, but prosecutors have asked for an “upward departure” from that, which could add a number of years to the sentence, former prosecutor Susan Gaertner said."



    It's ok to quote the NY Post, right? Because I know all media is shit.



    Anyway, 12 years in protective custody is a sham of a sentence to hand out to a White Supremacist murderer.

    It's an empty victory, having convicted him of three charges, the most serious being 2nd-degree murder.

    I wonder what "guidelines" they're referring to.

    Are these the guidelines where they treat White Supremacist murdering cops different than the rest of the population? Those guidelines?

    Now I'M the one who's confused.
    In all honesty I don’t think race was even brought up during the trial. I did a quick search but of course the results were “racist” etc I was just trying to see if it was brought up during the trial as far as I can tell it wasn’t.

    I'll save you trouble... you won't find it. It's me who added it.

    Intuition. It's a gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    This... from a NY Post article:

    "He could get up to four decades behind bars for the top count of second-degree murder. The second count of of third degree murder carries a penalty of up to 25 years, but he will only be sentenced on the top count as per state law, said Samuel McCloud, who has practiced criminal law in Minnesota for 44 years.

    The third count he was convicted of, second-degree manslaughter, carries a 10-year maximum — but he also will not face sentencing on that count as per state law, McCloud said.

    While second-degree murder carries a “statutory maximum” of 40 years in the state, Chauvin will likely face far less time when he is sentenced, as per state sentencing guidelines.

    The guidelines call for about 12 years in prison for Chauvin, but prosecutors have asked for an “upward departure” from that, which could add a number of years to the sentence, former prosecutor Susan Gaertner said."



    It's ok to quote the NY Post, right? Because I know all media is shit.



    Anyway, 12 years in protective custody is a sham of a sentence to hand out to a White Supremacist murderer.

    It's an empty victory, having convicted him of three charges, the most serious being 2nd-degree murder.

    I wonder what "guidelines" they're referring to.

    Are these the guidelines where they treat White Supremacist murdering cops different than the rest of the population? Those guidelines?

    Now I'M the one who's confused.
    In all honesty I don’t think race was even brought up during the trial. I did a quick search but of course the results were “racist” etc I was just trying to see if it was brought up during the trial as far as I can tell it wasn’t.

    I'll save you trouble... you won't find it. It's me who added it.

    Intuition. It's a gift.
    Yes yes I know you added it but to the best of my knowledge the prosecution didn’t bring up racism when presenting its case. I was not commenting on what you said of course that has been said numerous times since day one of this. Not just by you. I was curious if it was used in the trial

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    Default Re: George Floyd murdered by cops

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    This... from a NY Post article:

    "He could get up to four decades behind bars for the top count of second-degree murder. The second count of of third degree murder carries a penalty of up to 25 years, but he will only be sentenced on the top count as per state law, said Samuel McCloud, who has practiced criminal law in Minnesota for 44 years.

    The third count he was convicted of, second-degree manslaughter, carries a 10-year maximum — but he also will not face sentencing on that count as per state law, McCloud said.

    While second-degree murder carries a “statutory maximum” of 40 years in the state, Chauvin will likely face far less time when he is sentenced, as per state sentencing guidelines.

    The guidelines call for about 12 years in prison for Chauvin, but prosecutors have asked for an “upward departure” from that, which could add a number of years to the sentence, former prosecutor Susan Gaertner said."



    It's ok to quote the NY Post, right? Because I know all media is shit.



    Anyway, 12 years in protective custody is a sham of a sentence to hand out to a White Supremacist murderer.

    It's an empty victory, having convicted him of three charges, the most serious being 2nd-degree murder.

    I wonder what "guidelines" they're referring to.

    Are these the guidelines where they treat White Supremacist murdering cops different than the rest of the population? Those guidelines?

    Now I'M the one who's confused.
    In all honesty I don’t think race was even brought up during the trial. I did a quick search but of course the results were “racist” etc I was just trying to see if it was brought up during the trial as far as I can tell it wasn’t.

    I'll save you trouble... you won't find it. It's me who added it.

    Intuition. It's a gift.
    Yes yes I know you added it but to the best of my knowledge the prosecution didn’t bring up racism when presenting its case. I was not commenting on what you said of course that has been said numerous times since day one of this. Not just by you. I was curious if it was used in the trial

    Probably not... which IMO is commendable. Chauvin (IMO again) has WS written all over his face and demeanor... but no, I don't think it was used as part of the defense.

    Yet it goes without saying that this conviction (if upheld through any sort of BS appeal) goes a little ways in the right direction, as far as the disproportionate use of deadly force from white cops to black people.

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