Canelo v Saunders - May 8th Unification fight

[erics44]

I’m not sure when people are going to actual realise this is true, but whether we like it or not, there is an A side and a B side, and the A side gets to call the shots. FACT!
Wlad , Floyd, now Canelo.
You might think it’s wrong, you might think it’s unfair, but it is what it is.
Saunders has got 2 choices, like it or fucking lump it.
And as for all the people saying “all he can do is moan about it to highlight it”, they’re the very same people that criticise Divers and people waving imaginary cards in football. Tell me, what’s the difference?

I dislike the imaginary card, those who brandish it should be booked or sent off depending on the colour of their imaginary card

diving though goes a lot deeper for me, rolling around on the floor maybe should be punished but going down seems like a necessary evil

I’ve got A couple of issues with your post and I’ll try to address them one by one.
Apologies in advance for going off topic.
1. The imaginary card is to highlight an issue and seek justice. Billy Jo whingeing about stuff is to highlight an issue and seek justice. What’s the difference.
2. Diving is a “necessary evil” are you saying with or without contact? Are you saying CHEATING is “a necessary evil.”

like I say, diving goes deeper than a simple answer

and no, 99 times out of 100 diving without contact isnt acceptable but im not sure all diving (or going down easy) is unacceptable, i think winning games by kicking people is more unacceptable

and i see your point about the imaginary card but i dont think that there is any honesty when people are branding it and i think its more about gaining an advantage

and i dont think its the same as BJS complaining about the judges, if england played spain in the world cup final - in Spain with a Spanish ref and linesman and Southgate complained then thats more like what BJS is doing

branding the card is more like BJS complaining about holding or hitting behind the head or something, asking for a point off

[Primo Carnera]

I’m not sure when people are going to actual realise this is true, but whether we like it or not, there is an A side and a B side, and the A side gets to call the shots. FACT!
Wlad , Floyd, now Canelo.
You might think it’s wrong, you might think it’s unfair, but it is what it is.
Saunders has got 2 choices, like it or fucking lump it.
And as for all the people saying “all he can do is moan about it to highlight it”, they’re the very same people that criticise Divers and people waving imaginary cards in football. Tell me, what’s the difference?

I dislike the imaginary card, those who brandish it should be booked or sent off depending on the colour of their imaginary card

diving though goes a lot deeper for me, rolling around on the floor maybe should be punished but going down seems like a necessary evil

I’ve got A couple of issues with your post and I’ll try to address them one by one.
Apologies in advance for going off topic.
1. The imaginary card is to highlight an issue and seek justice. Billy Jo whingeing about stuff is to highlight an issue and seek justice. What’s the difference.
2. Diving is a “necessary evil” are you saying with or without contact? Are you saying CHEATING is “a necessary evil.”

like I say, diving goes deeper than a simple answer

and no, 99 times out of 100 diving without contact isnt acceptable but im not sure all diving (or going down easy) is unacceptable, i think winning games by kicking people is more unacceptable

and i see your point about the imaginary card but i dont think that there is any honesty when people are branding it and i think its more about gaining an advantage

and i dont think its the same as BJS complaining about the judges, if england played spain in the world cup final - in Spain with a Spanish ref and linesman and Southgate complained then thats more like what BJS is doing

branding the card is more like BJS complaining about holding or hitting behind the head or something, asking for a point off

So do you think there will be 3 Mexican Judges? There might be 3 American judges, but technically they’re Neutral.
In reality I know that’s not the case, but it’s not a bias that Canelo has manufactured, its more the money men, and that includes Eddie Hearn. He’s English, but his major interest in this fight is Canelo.
So what do we do about that? 🤷*♂️
This is what makes it slightly different in Boxing.

[erics44]

to be fair i dont know what nationality the judges are and im well aware of the dynamics of boxing and the role of the a side and b side fighters

in fact i think some fighters have built a very very successful career on the advantages of being the A side fighter

and i dont even know if i disagree with it happening

what would you do if you were in Saunders position?

Youve signed a contract for the biggest fight of your life and there is supposed to be an English judge and there isn't

[Master]

to be fair i dont know what nationality the judges are and im well aware of the dynamics of boxing and the role of the a side and b side fighters

in fact i think some fighters have built a very very successful career on the advantages of being the A side fighter

and i dont even know if i disagree with it happening

what would you do if you were in Saunders position?

Youve signed a contract for the biggest fight of your life and there is supposed to be an English judge and there isn't

Call their bluff and threaten to withdraw from the fight. The closer to the date you do it the stronger your position.

[erics44]

to be fair i dont know what nationality the judges are and im well aware of the dynamics of boxing and the role of the a side and b side fighters

in fact i think some fighters have built a very very successful career on the advantages of being the A side fighter

and i dont even know if i disagree with it happening

what would you do if you were in Saunders position?

Youve signed a contract for the biggest fight of your life and there is supposed to be an English judge and there isn't

Call their bluff and threaten to withdraw from the fight. The closer to the date you do it the stronger your position.

maybe thats the best way but then people will still see it as complaining, even more so than what he is doing

[X]

I can’t see away Saunders can win this.

Canelo’s (just about only) weakness is that he has slow feet. May weather exploited this superbly and he had enough pop to land some spectacular shots - especially his trademark straight right.

Saunders definitely has skills, but not particularly great footwork. I don’t see he has the power to get Alvarez’ respect and Camelot is very good at applying pressure until his opponent just looks to survive.

[TitoFan]

My BOLD prediction!!


Saunders starched by KNOCKOUT!!

[Primo Carnera]

to be fair i dont know what nationality the judges are and im well aware of the dynamics of boxing and the role of the a side and b side fighters

in fact i think some fighters have built a very very successful career on the advantages of being the A side fighter

and i dont even know if i disagree with it happening

what would you do if you were in Saunders position?

Youve signed a contract for the biggest fight of your life and there is supposed to be an English judge and there isn't

But this is it, does the contract state that there should be a British Judge. Because my understanding was that it would be “3 Neutral Judges.”
But to answer your question, IF the contract did state that there would be a British judge, then if I were him, yes, I would kick up about it, but if it really pissed me off, I would threaten to pull out.
And then comes the moment when I would show whether I had the balls or not by pulling out or not. It’s hard to say.

[Spicoli]

Anyone whos been watching boxing long enough might suggest ol Saunders is just trying to set up 'I told ya so' tantrums if and when Canelo gets the nod assuming the judges are even involved. I think he's going to have many moments of fight or flight panic trying to find an effective way to keep Canelo off as it goes and is cut off. Any talk about the size of the ring? If I were Saunders that would be top of the list over what Country a judge is from. Saunders can box and does a good job reading available avenues but he isn't trying to evade 1-2 and nonchalantly slide off to reset. This Canelo will keep rolling them with varying power and really mess up Saunders since of timing. Hope it's a competitive..*cough scrap and Saunders really rises up but honestly I think he'll be throwing snowballs at a tank and his best bet would be cutting Canelo badly.

[TitoFan]

I think it's time to start a "What's Next for Canelo?" thread, considering the consensus that this fight is a foregone conclusion.

[Master]

Canelo Alvarez reveals his brother was KIDNAPPED just days before Rocky Fielding fight and had to negotiate release

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14799...ielding-fight/